Spell totem and ranged attack totem gems are now vendor trash

Or you could use a 6L infernal blow

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Xendran a écrit :

Or you could use a 6L infernal blow

Or a dominating blow setup, or just remote mine + ignite + elemental prolif that detonate dead in another item to get a damage boost for it also to make it actually deal worthwhile damage.

armchair generals. how do i love them

this setup has one immense adcantage over your 'alternatives' - mobility. safety due to stun immunity is also a big factor same as seamless leech.

you dont have to agree with that but there are things you might not understand at first. btw 6l inf blow - hom much mana?

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sidtherat a écrit :

armchair generals. how do i love them

this setup has one immense adcantage over your 'alternatives' - mobility. safety due to stun immunity is also a big factor same as seamless leech.

you dont have to agree with that but there are things you might not understand at first. btw 6l inf blow - hom much mana?

You can still at least swap in culling strike (and lose that end charge on stun I guess), on either a weapon or gem to get a better cast on melee kill detonate dead cyclone though. Used to use a kaom's primacy version of that for just that reason.... or also just as good is the quecholli maul.

it so happens that i do use kaoms primacy axe. culling makes all these explosions worthwile

end charge on stun is there to stay. my immortall call has incredible uptime thanks to seamless charge generation. it really works. i slapped these gems into tabula when level 40 to toy with comk. and im 80 now and never looked back. sadly the desync is there to spoil the fun

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sidtherat a écrit :

armchair generals. how do i love them

this setup has one immense adcantage over your 'alternatives' - mobility. safety due to stun immunity is also a big factor same as seamless leech.

you dont have to agree with that but there are things you might not understand at first. btw 6l inf blow - hom much mana?

Speaking as somebody who has used both 7L (bringer) frenzy and 7L infernal blow, i can tell you that the mana cost is perfectly sustainable if you know what you're doing. In fact, 7L frenzy costs less than your cyclone, and IB costs even less.

Stun immunity? You usually want enough HP that you aren't getting stunned much anyway, or use blind/US. Cyclone is also very desync heavy, and your explosion is dealing even more damage than the infernal one due to CE, and the infernal explosion is the only thing that makes reflect dangerous. Can't imagine doing an even stronger one.

I agree it's cool usage, I am disagreeing that the gem is implemented well enough that it's really worth using outside of very particular situations, and those situations are still beaten out by other things that are stronger and cheaper.

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sidtherat a écrit :

it so happens that i do use kaoms primacy axe. culling makes all these explosions worthwile

end charge on stun is there to stay. my immortall call has incredible uptime thanks to seamless charge generation. it really works. i slapped these gems into tabula when level 40 to toy with comk. and im 80 now and never looked back. sadly the desync is there to spoil the fun

Why not life on hit instead of ECoMS, Sid? Are you able to stun anything with cyclone... perhaps using marohi?

I got cast on melee kill on ground slam on my summoner hybrid, casting multistriked raging spirits for fun and giggles. It's a nice gem for crowd control, doesn't have nearly the sick cast potential that CoC has, but can still be useful and doesn't require heavy investment to trigger reliably like CoC does.

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Ah, just saw the 'primacy' part, ok, if it works for you...

ECoMS is amazing if you have enough physical damage to leech consistently without a leech gem, especially when you combine it with 0.2% life regen per charge, and even more if you are using it with Frenzy + The Blood Dance. The flat damage reduction and overcapping your resists nearly permanently is really nice, as well as having IC/VIC charges ready to go.

I especially like it on my Facenuker because i gain all 3 charges when i punch something (Frenzy + ECoMS + Romira's) and have a 5L staff in weapon swap for discharge, while constantly conduiting permanent full charges to my party.


EDIT: Charan, know if BLOW has many discharge characters in standard in it? If so i may get 5 dischargers for the lulz and conduit all of my charges to them to faceroll everything.


EDIT 2: One interesting use of CoMK would be with a Devouring Totem, but i can't see it being practical in reality.

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Xendran a écrit :

ECoMS is amazing if you have enough physical damage to leech consistently without a leech gem, especially when you combine it with 0.2% life regen per charge, and even more if you are using it with Frenzy + The Blood Dance. The flat damage reduction and overcapping your resists nearly permanently is really nice, as well as having IC/VIC charges ready to go.

I agree it's amazing, but only if you do enough damage per hit to actually stun. Well, if he's using primacy he probably does.

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sidtherat a écrit :

it so happens that i do use kaoms primacy axe. culling makes all these explosions worthwile

end charge on stun is there to stay. my immortall call has incredible uptime thanks to seamless charge generation. it really works. i slapped these gems into tabula when level 40 to toy with comk. and im 80 now and never looked back. sadly the desync is there to spoil the fun

Ahhh, didn't know you had one also... it is a pretty decent axe, made a lot of fringe melee builds pretty fun


adding chance to ignite + elemental prolif may still be worth looking at though