does GGG even ban RMTers

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yungjoc a écrit :

seriously i know this one dude who blatantly RMTs dude has the most gg gear like 3 legacy shavs and don't know the price of them at all. he just trades them for a deal that isn't in his favor and doesn't seem to care. Then one day he told me he FOUND a headhunter belt.. BRO we playing in standard and im pretty sure they don't even drop anywhere now. he also used all his money to recently mirror something next thing you know he mirrors 3 more items in like 2 days. how can anyone generate this amount of currency that isn't rmt Can't they just look at the person's trade logs or whatever. [Removed by Support]

You know this one dude and where is he on the ladder? < zero

He's NOT playing about you against him, RMT isn't about competition, it's about getting the most bang out of your buck.

It'd be interesting if GGG would look at the top 200 ladder players and see if any are suspicious of RMT. I would guess they are not, RMT is a problem but not a huge as this OP suggests.

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mammii_banned a écrit :

actually the talk with chris was more along the lines of he had heard about the case and didn't want anyone banned until there was a consensus? but someone jumped the gun? This was roughly 8 months ago so some details are a bit foggy. It came down to him not being able to investigate my individual case... even though i could prove it otherwise, he would have to then invest that same amount of time into every other accusation against others to see if they are innocent of actually using money or not...

All in all, it didn't bother me significantly as I still continue to play the game and enjoy myself. Key note for people just tuning in, my original account is still perm banned.


Edit: by him/he... that's him referring to GGG

But it has nothing to do with whether real money is used, or not.

That is the point you refused to even hear.
And it seems you still refuse.

You couldn't prove anything, because you openly admitted and still do, to using FG <-- using external currency.

*bangs head against wall*

That said, if what you said regarding jumping the gun is true, then it really is telling.
The title of the thread asks "does GGG even ban RMTers", as RMTers are strictly equal to FGers in the rule they break 'external currency'. When someone blatantly flaunts their rule breaking on twitch and on these very fora, and continues to do so to an outcry of the denizens.. is eventually banned and it is seen as 'jumping the gun'; it would seem the answer is a resounding 'NO, with the odd slip from an overzealous GGG member'.

imo, strictly banning currency bots(and associated accounts) is good enough. If a seller plays most efficiently the way the game mechanics require (so does buyer), what's wrong with it ? If you don't like that, you can beat that by your own gameplay and can give feedback to GGG as well.

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finisterre a écrit :

imo, strictly banning currency bots(and associated accounts) is good enough. If a seller plays most efficiently the way the game mechanics require (so does buyer), what's wrong with it ? If you don't like that, you can beat that by your own gameplay and can give feedback to GGG as well.

Should we have pay to win as well?

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jdilly23 a écrit :

Should we have pay to win as well?

For what exactly in your case ?

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finisterre a écrit :

imo, strictly banning currency bots(and associated accounts) is good enough. If a seller plays most efficiently the way the game mechanics require (so does buyer), what's wrong with it ?

In a perfect world, I'd argue there's nothing wrong with it.

But it's not a perfect world. Although we can ban a significant number of currency bot accounts, there's no hope of ever getting all of them, much less half. And in any environment where it's legal to buy in-game items with real money, it adds an air of legitimacy to the practice of botters turning cheating into cash.

The only way to fight an effective battle against botters is to hit them where their wallet is, by utterly forbidding RMT as well.

@ScrotieMcB

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But it's not a perfect world. Although we can ban a significant number of currency bot accounts, there's no hope of ever getting all of them, much less half.

That said enough. Half bots = double-costs to RMT. Much worth to take efforts than wiretapping RMTers.

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finisterre a écrit :

@ScrotieMcB

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But it's not a perfect world. Although we can ban a significant number of currency bot accounts, there's no hope of ever getting all of them, much less half.

That said enough. Half bots = double-costs to RMT. Much worth to take efforts than wiretapping RMTers.

True but when RMTers utterly dominate in entire server and hold over 10 000 exalts worth of currency in addition to items worth another 10 000, maybe its enough of an economic impact to start playing bad cop.

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Baskerville a écrit :

It'd be interesting if GGG would look at the top 200 ladder players and see if any are suspicious of RMT. I would guess they are not, RMT is a problem but not a huge as this OP suggests.

I laughed until I nearly choked to death.

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Nephalim a écrit :

True but when RMTers utterly dominate in entire server and hold over 10 000 exalts worth of currency in addition to items worth another 10 000, maybe its enough of an economic impact to start playing bad cop.

Indeed. That's why those currency bots should be strictly banned.