Shavronne's Wrappings is facebreaker

My original thread http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/467003 was moved to gameplay help.

But now a forum moderator said this in a thread discussing the price of shavronne's wrappings getting out of control:

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pneuma a écrit :
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Budget_player_cadet a écrit :
Honestly, I think the biggest issue with Shavronne's isn't the demand. It's the supply. You guys remember how build-required uniques were supposed to be common? Well, you need Shavronne's Wrappings to run a low-life build into maps, because otherwise the very first alchemist you encounter will one-shot you. And it's not like Low-Life is some spectacularly odd, niche build, either - there are multiple uniques and a keystone catering specifically for it. But effectively no low-life build is even remotely viable past A3 Merc without this Unique. Making it almost impossible to get was the mistake here. Tune down RF Spork, maybe nerf the ES roll, and make it drop as often as, say, Facebreakers.

Agreed. Requiring an incredibly expensive and rare unique for a build to function is problematic. At least with crap like Soul Taker, 1h+shield/dw builds work without it. Low life in maps is pretty much dead in the water without Shavronne's or an equivalent amount of rare chaos resist/es gear.


So I make this thread to discuss the pretty much mandatory change to shavronne's wrappings.

Nerf it and make it as common as facebreaker, or just make it as common as facebreaker if certain group of people simply cannot nerf existing items.

Any other ideas what to do with the wrappings are welcome.
Dernière édition par Idioticus#7813, le 28 juil. 2013 à 15:44:38
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Seeing as low-life build are the single most powerful type of caster, I'm very much ok with not everyone getting a Shav and doing it. If you're lucky/gring enough, good for you. It shouldn't be an auto-pick, which it would, otherwise.

You can say the same about Block builds and the Aegis Aurora. Of course, if you disagree, I'd love a free Aegis on Anarchy or Standard :D
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Dernière édition par CantripN#4278, le 28 juil. 2013 à 15:48:07
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CantripN a écrit :
Seeing as low-life build are the single most powerful type of caster, I'm very much ok with not everyone getting a Shav and doing it. If you're lucky/gring enough, good for you. It shouldn't be an auto-pick, which it would, otherwise.

You can say the same about Block builds and the Aegis Aurora. Of course, if you disagree, I'd love a free Aegis on Anarchy or Standard :D


If low life enables the most powerful casters, it just means that shavronne's wrappings are conceptually broken and it shouldn't even exist in the first place.
Shavronne's being rare is fine, players should understand that it's a luxury. You can make a low-life build and farm areas with no chaos damage, so low-life builds do function; it's just Shavronne's is a huge upgrade that opens up the rest of the game to these builds. Can you punch your way through docks or lunaris without facebreakers?

Players should understand that some items will be outside of their grasp for a while.
sry ive seen godly and godlys dont lose hp wich wuold pretty much be a smiter with life tap
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We just need a lesser item that provides the same unique effect, then the problem will be solved.
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Make Shavronne drop more often and remove the ridiculously over-powered spell damage bonus from RF.
You don't need Shavronne for low life:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr-I62SCGoU

But I'm not saying it doesn't gives you more survivalibity.
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Pakamon a écrit :
Make Shavronne drop more often and remove the ridiculously over-powered spell damage bonus from RF.


If that spell never existed, the game would be far more balanced, IMO. The +30% More Damage is more than Plenty.
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Barry a écrit :
Shavronne's being rare is fine, players should understand that it's a luxury. You can make a low-life build and farm areas with no chaos damage, so low-life builds do function; it's just Shavronne's is a huge upgrade that opens up the rest of the game to these builds. Can you punch your way through docks or lunaris without facebreakers?

Players should understand that some items will be outside of their grasp for a while.




Luxury =/= Huge upgrade. If the luxury so happens to be a massive upgrade, then it becomes a necessity to get one. Luxury is more of something that you want, but it is not truly necessary since it is just there to optimize your already completed build. The way you describe Shavronne's wrap does not indicate it is a luxury, but more of a need to truly make an incomplete build be complete + optimized. Pretty much, it is a necessity and a luxury. Shavronne's wrap is one of a kind unique that is broken. I may look like I am contradicted what I am posting, but that is how bad Shavronne's wrap is.



At least Facebreaker, you do not have that issue since it is cheap, and has a downside + dependency.
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Pakamon a écrit :
Make Shavronne drop more often and remove the ridiculously over-powered spell damage bonus from RF.


Would love for this to happen. Especially when there's on low life bonuses to builds other than casters that are way worse than RF.
Dernière édition par Redoxe#1231, le 28 juil. 2013 à 16:22:48

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