Why Are Bows So Weak Now? (Phys build)

"

ampdecay a écrit :

Look how much elemental damage you have on everything though, we don't want to add in all the elemental auras and flat bonuses and increased elemental damage with weapon percents. we want pure physical no elemental.

I'm not purist when it comes to final damage done. I fully utilize Hatred aura or Added fire damage support gem. These skills/support gems work of physical damage but add on top unlike Ice Shot or Lightning Arrow, which only converts part of physical damage into elemental.

Hatred Aura is a huge boost for me. Added fire damage is 2nd highest support gem in my 5L Frenzy setup--Faster attacks, Added fire damage, Increased Critical Damage, Increased Critical Strikes.

Just for the record. highest i found so far after 77 + 60 level.



i ask myself if i should exalt it (only ilev 62) and hope for some IAS mod.?!

"

Baron01 a écrit :

"

ampdecay a écrit :

Look how much elemental damage you have on everything though, we don't want to add in all the elemental auras and flat bonuses and increased elemental damage with weapon percents. we want pure physical no elemental.

I'm not purist when it comes to final damage done. I fully utilize Hatred aura or Added fire damage support gem. These skills/support gems work of physical damage but add on top unlike Ice Shot or Lightning Arrow, which only converts part of physical damage into elemental.

Hatred Aura is a huge boost for me. Added fire damage is 2nd highest support gem in my 5L Frenzy setup--Faster attacks, Added fire damage, Increased Critical Damage, Increased Critical Strikes.

But we are talking about a pure physical set up

"

ampdecay a écrit :

But we are talking about a pure physical set up

Why would you gimp yourself by refusing to use skills that work of physical damage?

To be clear, I have linked my weapon below. That weapon has pure physical damage, which is great for skills that add elemental damage on top of my physical damage, ie. Hatred aura or Added fire damage support gem. I'm not doing any less physical damage than without using these skills. I just increase my final DPS by adding a bit of elemental damage on top.

If you insist on using only physical damage, you are doing it wrong. There is nothing that would diminish effectiveness of skills that work with physical damage if there is elemental damage on top.
Such self-imposed restriction would only serve to further reduce physical damage build potential and make the game even less enjoyable as it is.

Using skills/gems that add--add not convert to make sure this is caught--elemental damage based on the percentage from dealt physical damage just benefit physical builds. It would be inefficient for elemental ranger to use Added fire damage support gem on their Thicket bow with tri-elemental mods and no physical mods. Similarly, it would be inefficient if I use weapon elemental damage support gem on my pure physical damage bow.

Here is my build as well. I do not have any points enhancing elemental damage, pure physical build, but that does not prevent me to take advantage of skills/gems that make me more powerful.


I'm still physical damage ranger even if I use elemental damage in the end.

I understand you're using what's pretty much a hybrid physical elemental build, that's cool. But I want to roll play as physical bow ranger that stun locks with fast attacks, without pure physical it isn't really that possible. I simply don't want to include that much elemental damage. I'd rather it be flat physical with increases to stun duration., like what is included in the physical damage bow nodes by arrow dodging.


I guess what I'm trying to say is I would like more viable diversity in physical bow builds, stun builds, crit builds, hybrid physical/increased elemental (hatred, added fire) builds

I generally define a physical bow build as one that takes physical bow damage passives.

Those builds are pretty underpowered at the moment. Using the same bow, a lightning arrow build that takes a mix of crit/critdmg, projectile dmg, ele dmg and ias in passives, and uses Wep Ele Dmg support, is going to far outdps someone who invests in the phys dmg nodes.

why would you go pure physical? I have a hybrid. Does lots of physical and also takes advantage of elemental damage. Frenzy + added fire + weapon elemental with wrath/hatred/anger and i am doing about 14k dps with 7x frenzy charges. Seems quite strong to me, however, not using LA right now does kinda feel like gimping yourself on a bow user.

You cannot expect to get as much damage as someone who incorporates all elements into their attacks. If you pigeon-hole yourself on one type of damage you are not going to be able to do as much damage as someone who stacks all damage types.

We have to find a way to buff physical only projectile attack w/o buffing more or nerfin ele users that physical convertion of elemental bow skills are the deal breaker.

Like i said earlier heavy strike kinda projectile skill and more physical dmg for projectiles support(with cannot converted to elemental afix) would be fine w/o nerfing the ele users.

I'm not talking about bows only pure physical wand attacks sucks as well phyical projectile dmg need buff.

I don't play these types of games to play the most optimized builds, I like to build a tree before I start playing and stick to it. I grew up playing DnD on pen and paper so I'm really into role playing very specific builds.

So yes that's why I'm purposely gimping myself.

Its not like I can't do maps or anything, so far the only hard one I did had puncture snakes and I'm full evasion so that wasn't fun.

With 3k DPS I can 2 shot white mobs in level 66 maps, with culling strike I also get kills at the 10% mark which actually makes bosses kinda easy.

Is it so wrong I want a pure physical no elemental no crit bow ranger that has competitive damage with pure elemental and elemental supplemental builds?