Why Are Bows So Weak Now? (Phys build)

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B_TAHKE a écrit :

except burning arrow has 30% additional damage which derives from physical. Has 10% chance to ignite which even more damage, eats less mana And less succeptableto mana entropy.
Lvl 1 burning arrow is 8 mana roughly 1.4 attacks per second=11.2 mana, frenzy is 18+ 2.1 attacks per second which is 37.8(48) mana per second.(grieveous, for every 1 frenzy strike I can shoot 4 burning arrow without,takin mana regeneration into account.) It is like 11% damage increase per mana for burning arrow vs 2.4% damage increase per mana for frenzy lvl 19.
So I would say lvl1 burning arrow is usually better then lvl 19 frenzy. Frenzy is good if you have no access to as effective skill as burning arrow, or You need things dead now and you are ready to drink potions one after another, Bosses come in mind. It is particulary awesome for blood magic tank builds, because all damage comes from skill itself rather then from passives and you can focus on defences and life regeneration only.(hint duelist can get 40% cost reduction from the tree if you are interested in non BM build.)
Oh and before you go too far frenzy+LMP+culing strike+additional fire damage+ faster attacks is like whoping 44 mana peruse or morethen 88 per second. Are you running eldritch battery or blood magic? Faster attacks is not that effective 50% increased attack speed best case for 15% more mana cost seems ineffective for skill having already whoping 80%. I would argue culing strike though but again damage inrease moresuits burning arrowthen frenzy but whatever if you get it for effect then ok.
Skills I'dlookat this point mana leach,chance to flee,pierce,knockback,increased critical strikes,increased critical damage(in place of culing strike). All of them rather cheap and yield good offensive or defensive bonuses.(btv critical damage support without crit damage passives gives around 300% critical damage hits).
What curses you use? Frenzy due to how t is designed seems to benefit better from offensive curses then defencive. You don't really need all that offesive nodes.

If bows have weak physical damage(quiver, bow, rings) (watches in direction of wands), well then it is pretty good damage. Average Thicket bow with max attack speed.
19-24,100% localdamageincrease and 12-24 additional physical damage and 24-39 from quivers and rings gives 86-135. Pretty considerable damage for bows Wands don'tgeteven this and yet they are pretty good.

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Zealflare a écrit :

An end-game 2h melee weapon can get upwards of 400+ top end damage. There is even a unique 2h that has 520+ top end damage.

On bows? Also a 2h weapon, yet the average top end damage is about 200+. 270+ on a lionseye. There's access to quivers, but quiver themselves are incapable of getting flat physical mods. They're great for Elemental damage though (another advantage to elemental builds).

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Zealflare a écrit :

An end-game 2h melee weapon can get upwards of 400+ top end damage. There is even a unique 2h that has 520+ top end damage.

On bows? Also a 2h weapon, yet the average top end damage is about 200+. 270+ on a lionseye. There's access to quivers, but quiver themselves are incapable of getting flat physical mods. They're great for Elemental damage though (another advantage to elemental builds).

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artemis42 a écrit :

I see a lot of phys rangers sporting thickets. Wouldn't you want a slow ass bow, so the bigger shot isn't mitigated as much by armor?

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artemis42 a écrit :

I see a lot of phys rangers sporting thickets. Wouldn't you want a slow ass bow, so the bigger shot isn't mitigated as much by armor?