The new Berserker degen is the worst joke ever

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MortalKombat3 a écrit :

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Head_Less a écrit :

traditional berzerker rage comes when they get hit and the malus comes after they kill.

Imo rage should have been provided when hit and the degen should have been like 50 life taken per seconds for 3secondes per kills up to 400 life sec.

Traditional berserker's rage should be something like it was in Neverwinter Nights 2, for example - Barbarian gains extra power for certain duration, and suffers from fatique penalties afterwards...

Go for the eyes, Boo, go for the eyes! Rawr!

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Xavathos a écrit :

Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I hear you.

All this is assuming it's even the servers or the game that is the issue at hand here to begin with. We haven't even established that. You're just jumping to conclusions based on... well, what really?

If there is a problem to speak of, I'll be the first to admit it, but most of these type of threads are just rants for the sake of rants when there's nothing else to do but rant. It is counter productive. It doesn't help anyone.

If my car's tire blows, I could immediately blame the road, right? Of course it's the road, that's what I was driving on! Low quality roads, that's the problem! But maybe... maybe it's because I didn't look after my tires, their alignment, pressure or perhaps damage. Maybe it was my own fault that I had this happen.

Before you establish where the problem originates, there's no point in blaming anything or anyone.

I'm convinced there will be a few calling me a white knight and what not, oh look at that another supporter defending GGG when CLEARLY their servers suck. Well, is it that clear? Because to me, it really isn't. I never d/c, I never crash, I rarely have any lag, so excuse me if I'm not into the habit of complaining about something that's working as intended.

Let me get that clear, your arguments are:

- Lags/spikes dont exist for you, therefor everyone who is lagging has to blame himself.
- staying the map for 12+ seconds after entering a hideout is OK game design.
- A berserker player is to blame when he dies after enterig a portal to hideout with full life because he chose berserker

Is that correct?

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The_Human_Tornado a écrit :

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Xavathos a écrit :

Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I hear you.

All this is assuming it's even the servers or the game that is the issue at hand here to begin with. We haven't even established that. You're just jumping to conclusions based on... well, what really?

If there is a problem to speak of, I'll be the first to admit it, but most of these type of threads are just rants for the sake of rants when there's nothing else to do but rant. It is counter productive. It doesn't help anyone.

If my car's tire blows, I could immediately blame the road, right? Of course it's the road, that's what I was driving on! Low quality roads, that's the problem! But maybe... maybe it's because I didn't look after my tires, their alignment, pressure or perhaps damage. Maybe it was my own fault that I had this happen.

Before you establish where the problem originates, there's no point in blaming anything or anyone.

I'm convinced there will be a few calling me a white knight and what not, oh look at that another supporter defending GGG when CLEARLY their servers suck. Well, is it that clear? Because to me, it really isn't. I never d/c, I never crash, I rarely have any lag, so excuse me if I'm not into the habit of complaining about something that's working as intended.

Let me get that clear, your arguments are:

- Lags/spikes dont exist for you, therefor everyone who is lagging has to blame himself.
- staying the map for 12+ seconds after entering a hideout is OK game design.
- A berserker player is to blame when he dies after enterig a portal to hideout with full life because he chose berserker

Is that correct?

Not even close.

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Xavathos a écrit :

Not even close.

But there is pretty much no other meaning to extract from your "Its perfect for me, the game has no flaws, nothing should change" rhetoric.

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The_Human_Tornado a écrit :

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Xavathos a écrit :

Not even close.

But there is pretty much no other meaning to extract from your "Its perfect for me, the game has no flaws, nothing should change" rhetoric.

I find it highly unfortunate that you are incapable of coming to any other conclusion than that, but that's your conclusion to draw. :)

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Xavathos a écrit :

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The_Human_Tornado a écrit :

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Xavathos a écrit :

Not even close.

But there is pretty much no other meaning to extract from your "Its perfect for me, the game has no flaws, nothing should change" rhetoric.

I find it highly unfortunate that you are incapable of coming to any other conclusion than that, but that's your conclusion to draw. :)

Yea Charles Dickens you got some tricks to hide all kind of stuff between your "If there is a problem to speak of" and "I'm convinced there will be a few calling me a white knight and what not" nonsense phrases.

Its really difficult to find a clear point between all those "maybe" narratives and personal philosophy. But I try it with some logic.

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Xavathos a écrit :

If there is a problem to speak of, I'll be the first to admit it, but most of these type of threads are just rants for the sake of rants when there's nothing else to do but rant. It is counter productive. It doesn't help anyone.

You obviously dont admit that there is a "problem to speak of in this thread", because else "you would be the first to admit it", Right? But you dont admit that there is any problem and instead go into that "blame yourself" rhetoric in the next paragraphes. Thus there is no problem for you if a Berserker is dying when entering a portal to hideout with full hp without bloodrage on, staying on any DoT ground, because that is what the thread is about, and if there is no problem then this is how the game should work for you.

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Xavathos a écrit :

If my car's tire blows, I could immediately blame the road, right? Of course it's the road, that's what I was driving on! Low quality roads, that's the problem! But maybe... maybe it's because I didn't look after my tires, their alignment, pressure or perhaps damage. Maybe it was my own fault that I had this happen.

I told you a 100 time that everything was checked before I left the map:
- full hp when entering the portal thanks to warbringer enduring cry
- no burning or descreated ground
- no Poison/Bleed/Corrupting blood
- no monsters
- no lags during mapping

That is all that can be done in this situation. So this paragraph makes absolutely no sense except either you think that I am lying (But why would you write all that stuff instead of just saying "You are lying" or whatever?) or if you think that "Its your own fault that you die with full hp in loadscreen because you picked Berserker with degen on no regen map".

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Xavathos a écrit :

Before you establish where the problem originates, there's no point in blaming anything or anyone.

The origin was established:
- the fact that the new Beserker can kill you in a loadscreen with full hp
- the fact that you stay 12+ seconds in the map after entering a portal to hideout

You wanna hear me telling you exactly the kind of lines of the code of the game that are resulting in those situations or what do you want?

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Xavathos a écrit :

I'm convinced there will be a few calling me a white knight and what not, oh look at that another supporter defending GGG when CLEARLY their servers suck. Well, is it that clear? Because to me, it really isn't. I never d/c, I never crash, I rarely have any lag, so excuse me if I'm not into the habit of complaining about something that's working as intended.

You are actually doing exactly the stuff that you have judged over harshly before. Everyone else is to blame when you get "wrongfully accused of being a white knight" except yourself, OF COURSE. Their server clearly suck, pretty much every league start is notorious for being unplayable in the first day, top players like Theuberelite some weeks ago die unfair deaths all the time during the leagues to the lags and spikes and Chris even admits it himself that all that lags and crashes shouldn't happen. But they do happen, again and again. Everyone knows that.

But you dont admit it and you even use the word NEVER, which means either you lie or you dont play the game, either way your personal experience is a worthless argument then.

Now tell me please what you wanted to say.

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The_Human_Tornado a écrit :

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I0wa a écrit :

We 've said it a million times. The downsides are pretty bad, the rewards are a joke, the buildup and sustain makes it useless on several endgame encounters. End of story.

Did they ever respond to any

The draw back to "ignore enemies res" is that you waste an ascend point. My zerkers got 45 pen flat from gear, thats enough to zero most bosses. And they can't even go below zero if you get the ignore res, because it makes it zero, it's a joke.

So instead of investing in pene gear, flasks and passives he can go all in for crit nodes/gear and other stuff and ends up with grotesque dps too, while he is having the last laugh at all the monster res/endu charge on hit etc maps.



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No waste, shaper items op af

The shaper/elder items help crit builds too and the gain x% as y helps everyone, not matter if they desire crit or pene or both.

even more for the elder jewels that just grant you 50% multiplier as a little bonus if you get the right one.

Edit: just had 150 violent retaliation stacks at a red bestiary mob. That means 150x8 = 1200% increased phys damage and +150% block chance (capped at 79%). Gladiators are having for sure a good laugh in this league. But yea better give dem zerkers 10% degen for 100% inc phys and 50% attack speed XDDD.

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The_Human_Tornado a écrit :

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Okay, you clearly have no idea of my intentions and do not look for value in my posts. As I said previously, you jump to conclusions using your self-proclaimed "logic" and just go from there. You're assuming left and right with severe lack of evidence to support your claims. Maybe that's why you're having issues to begin with?

I'm not using maybe to be vague, by the way, I use it because I don't know. I'm putting the question to you, the only one who can solve your issues. Which, by my understanding now, you will have to do alone if you're unwilling to listen to feedback from others.

Good luck to you.

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The_Human_Tornado a écrit :

The shaper/elder items help crit builds too and the gain x% as y helps everyone, not matter if they desire crit or pene or both.

even more for the elder jewels that just grant you 50% multiplier as a little bonus if you get the right one.

Edit: just had 150 violent retaliation stacks at a red bestiary mob. That means 150x8 = 1200% increased phys damage and +150% block chance (capped at 79%). Gladiators are having for sure a good laugh in this league. But yea better give dem zerkers 10% degen for 100% inc phys and 50% attack speed XDDD.

15 pen from oak, 16 pen from your shaper stick, 10 pen from Xoph's. Why would you waste ascend points on something I get for free.

How do you block that many times? You dont instant net, one shot reds lol?