The new Berserker degen is the worst joke ever

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The_Human_Tornado a écrit :
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astraph a écrit :
We 've said it a million times. The downsides are pretty bad, the rewards are a joke, the buildup and sustain makes it useless on several endgame encounters. End of story.


Did they ever respond to any critique? I would really like to know how they can justify that inquisitor gets "ignore enemy ele resistances" without any drawbacks while Berserker has to pay with 5% max hp degen for bonus stat that are like 4 points on the marauder or ranger sword wheel or 2-3 jewels.

Alright, time to play the new gladiator, seems pretty promising.


The draw back to "ignore enemies res" is that you waste an ascend point. My zerkers got 45 pen flat from gear, thats enough to zero most bosses. And they can't even go below zero if you get the ignore res, because it makes it zero, it's a joke.
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why does that degen kills?

It should leave the character with 1 hp, i agree its retarded.
Buff life on the right side of the tree! Just a little! Pretty Please!
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MortalKombat3 a écrit :
And you play a class with 10% HP degen on HC? Are you really THAT stupid? I wouldnt play such a class even on SC!

It sounds like you are basically agreeing with the OP that Berserker degen sucks.

Obviously i agree on that.
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traditional berzerker rage comes when they get hit and the malus comes after they kill.

Imo rage should have been provided when hit and the degen should have been like 50 life taken per seconds for 3secondes per kills up to 400 life sec.
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Dernière édition par Head_Less#6633, le 10 avr. 2018 à 08:45:55
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Head_Less a écrit :
traditional berzerker rage comes when they get hit and the malus comes after they kill.

Imo rage should have been provided when hit and the degen should have been like 50 life taken per seconds for 3secondes per kills up to 400 life sec.


Makes sence.

Or even degen starts when rage point is expired, lasts for X seconds and stacks up to Y hp/sec (400 is ok i think). It makes sence, berserker starts being aware of his wounds as soon as battle rage wears off.


PS. But if rage gained when hit, there should be much less rage points, maybe 3-5, cause you're not supposed to be hit often (if any at all) by bosses.

It could work well with current system of rage gaining but this degen concept.
Dernière édition par MaxGor31#4492, le 10 avr. 2018 à 09:45:03
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I0wa a écrit :
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The_Human_Tornado a écrit :
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astraph a écrit :
We 've said it a million times. The downsides are pretty bad, the rewards are a joke, the buildup and sustain makes it useless on several endgame encounters. End of story.


Did they ever respond to any critique? I would really like to know how they can justify that inquisitor gets "ignore enemy ele resistances" without any drawbacks while Berserker has to pay with 5% max hp degen for bonus stat that are like 4 points on the marauder or ranger sword wheel or 2-3 jewels.

Alright, time to play the new gladiator, seems pretty promising.


The draw back to "ignore enemies res" is that you waste an ascend point. My zerkers got 45 pen flat from gear, thats enough to zero most bosses. And they can't even go below zero if you get the ignore res, because it makes it zero, it's a joke.


So instead of investing in pene gear, flasks and passives he can go all in for crit nodes/gear and other stuff and ends up with grotesque dps too, while he is having the last laugh at all the monster res/endu charge on hit etc maps.



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smtad a écrit :
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Xavathos a écrit :
12+ second loading screens are more the problem than the berserker class, I think.
If you say you know the class mechanic, you know the map mods, you know the risk involved and still go through with it IN HARDCORE, it's your own fault.

RISKS should not include connection problem. GGG should guarantee their game quality. They can't just throw the problems to players and say "Oh! That is your network problem. It is not my business."


Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I hear you.

All this is assuming it's even the servers or the game that is the issue at hand here to begin with. We haven't even established that. You're just jumping to conclusions based on... well, what really?

If there is a problem to speak of, I'll be the first to admit it, but most of these type of threads are just rants for the sake of rants when there's nothing else to do but rant. It is counter productive. It doesn't help anyone.

If my car's tire blows, I could immediately blame the road, right? Of course it's the road, that's what I was driving on! Low quality roads, that's the problem! But maybe... maybe it's because I didn't look after my tires, their alignment, pressure or perhaps damage. Maybe it was my own fault that I had this happen.

Before you establish where the problem originates, there's no point in blaming anything or anyone.

I'm convinced there will be a few calling me a white knight and what not, oh look at that another supporter defending GGG when CLEARLY their servers suck. Well, is it that clear? Because to me, it really isn't. I never d/c, I never crash, I rarely have any lag, so excuse me if I'm not into the habit of complaining about something that's working as intended.
Carry on my waypoint son, there'll be peace when maps are done.
Lay your portal gem to rest, don't you die no more.

'Cause it's a bitter sweet symphony this league.
Try to make maps meet, you're a slave to the meta, then you leave.
Dernière édition par Xavathos#5130, le 10 avr. 2018 à 14:52:32
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Xavathos a écrit :

I'm convinced there will be a few calling me a white knight and what not, oh look at that another supporter defending GGG when CLEARLY their servers suck. Well, is it that clear? Because to me, it really isn't. I never d/c, I never crash, I rarely have any lag, so excuse me if I'm not into the habit of complaining about something that's working as intended.


LOL you are the biggest whiteknight ever and you didnt even read the stuff I wrote. I said if I die to lag whatever it does not matter to me. If I die because of stupid stuff it does not matter but if I die after entering a portal with full life then everyone would be mad I guess. Except you maybe lmao.

Had to edit this, no idea why the previous unfinished draft was posted. Pretty spooky.
Dernière édition par The_Human_Tornado#7752, le 10 avr. 2018 à 15:52:51
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The_Human_Tornado a écrit :
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Xavathos a écrit :

I'm convinced there will be a few calling me a white knight and what not, oh look at that another supporter defending GGG when CLEARLY their servers suck. Well, is it that clear? Because to me, it really isn't. I never d/c, I never crash, I rarely have any lag, so excuse me if I'm not into the habit of complaining about something that's working as intended.


LOL you are the biggest whiteknight ever and you didnt even read the stuff I wrote. I said if I die to lag whatever


Thank you for proving my point, as well as the compliment. You're too kind. :)
Carry on my waypoint son, there'll be peace when maps are done.
Lay your portal gem to rest, don't you die no more.

'Cause it's a bitter sweet symphony this league.
Try to make maps meet, you're a slave to the meta, then you leave.
Dernière édition par Xavathos#5130, le 10 avr. 2018 à 15:27:07
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Head_Less a écrit :
traditional berzerker rage comes when they get hit and the malus comes after they kill.

Imo rage should have been provided when hit and the degen should have been like 50 life taken per seconds for 3secondes per kills up to 400 life sec.


Traditional berserker's rage should be something like it was in Neverwinter Nights 2, for example - Barbarian gains extra power for certain duration, and suffers from fatique penalties afterwards...
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