The new Berserker degen is the worst joke ever

I agree rage should stop on 1 HP. It makes berserker can be used with CI again.

For builds diversity, berserker should not be forbidden to be used with CI.

We 've said it a million times. The downsides are pretty bad, the rewards are a joke, the buildup and sustain makes it useless on several endgame encounters. End of story.

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astraph a écrit :

We 've said it a million times. The downsides are pretty bad, the rewards are a joke, the buildup and sustain makes it useless on several endgame encounters. End of story.

Did they ever respond to any critique? I would really like to know how they can justify that inquisitor gets "ignore enemy ele resistances" without any drawbacks while Berserker has to pay with 5% max hp degen for bonus stat that are like 4 points on the marauder or ranger sword wheel or 2-3 jewels.

Alright, time to play the new gladiator, seems pretty promising.

I totally agree on the issue. It kinda seems like GGG is confusing an unique item with an ascendancy class. Ascendancy classes never should have "real" and obvious downsides. And zerker is the only class that not only has 1 downside, but even has 2.

But the worst thing about the new berzerker is that it will lead to juggernaut beeing nerved in the next update because statistic wise no-one is playing zerkers in hardcore. Its a terrible idea to remove a whole ascendancy class from a game mode this totally kills the idea of build diversity which is one of the biggest strenghts of Poe.

My solution for the zerker is:
Remove the degen, remove the damage taken from the more damage but make the damage taken constrained by the number of Rage. Like 50 Rage = 10% damage taken.

This way a player can choose if they want to build Rage as a risk vs return goal or not have a downsides and play save.

Also alter the warcry mechanic:
Instead of generating rage with warcries. Warcries should consume Rage for the following benefit: "If you have 5 Rage. Warcries are cast instantly and have no cooldown. Consume 5 Rage."

This way warcries could be used to "cool down" the zerker. The player will have more controle over his zerker and rage.

Just deal with it - PoE is not balanced for HC (actually, PoE is not balanced at all, but it's another story).
And you play a class with 10% HP degen on HC? Are you really THAT stupid? I wouldnt play such a class even on SC!

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MortalKombat3 a écrit :

And you play a class with 10% HP degen on HC? Are you really THAT stupid? I wouldnt play such a class even on SC!

It sounds like you are basically agreeing with the OP that Berserker degen sucks.

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dudiobugtron a écrit :

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MortalKombat3 a écrit :

And you play a class with 10% HP degen on HC? Are you really THAT stupid? I wouldnt play such a class even on SC!

It sounds like you are basically agreeing with the OP that Berserker degen sucks.

Or more correctly he agrees that Berserker is unplayable on HC. Which is even worse. Before 3.2 this was not the case.

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MortalKombat3 a écrit :

Just deal with it - PoE is not balanced for HC (actually, PoE is not balanced at all, but it's another story).

Staying 12+ seconds in a map AFTER ENTERING A PORTAL TO HIDEOUT is not about balance. Dying in a fucking loading screen after entering a portal to hideout with full hp without any warning or previous map lags is way beyond balance discussions. Its plain outrageous THAT THIS IS EVEN THEORETICALLY POSSIBLE.

Its not even about hardcore or standard. Imagine your level 98 or 99 char in standard dies like that and you lose 2 hours and hours because of absolutely nothng other than the garbage design of the new Berserker and the stupid game mechanics dealing with delay and the servers that are as shit as they have always been.

It would be so easy to fix most of the problems that the degen does to build diversity, playability with bad servers and so on.

Just make the degen a negative life regeneration mod that is affected (reduced) by life recovery map mods and turned off at no regeneration map mod, or Vaal Pact or CI. Then the balancing team would still archieve its most important goal of having no RF zerkers anymore and everything would be better for idiots like me who still dare to pick THE WRONG ascendary.

The real problem is that Rage is just a beta tier game mechanic that is not touched by anything. It is not buff, its not damage, it is not negative life reg or recovery, its just an alien to the game.

GGG fucked up a lot of things with Bestiary. Berserker is just a small part of it. The fact that they initially revealed Berserker with 10/20% degen shows how much thought went into those Ascendancy changes. None. Not to mention releasing a sneak peek with 20% degen, that number shouldn't even have crossed their minds. Ever.

Berserker will get a sizeable overhaul come next league.

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Anonymous1749704 a écrit :

GGG fucked up a lot of things with Bestiary. Berserker is just a small part of it. The fact that they initially revealed Berserker with 10/20% degen shows how much thought went into those Ascendancy changes. None. Not to mention releasing a sneak peek with 20% degen, that number shouldn't even have crossed their minds. Ever.

Berserker will get a sizeable overhaul come next league.

Yea I totally agree with you and Pyrokar. The fact that they were EVEN THINKING about 20% degen is completely insane.

In my opinion that just shows crystal clear that the only goal of the balancing team was to get rid of all RF berserkers with all means necessary and once and for all and nothing else matters.

Thats is a really bad style for balancing an ascendary. And the funny thing is that RF is still like the broken top tier build in this league, just now on jugger or chieftain or whatever. So they actually archieved nothing other than devastating Berserker lmao.