[3.6] Triple Herald Blade Vortex Elementalist

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Crackulous a écrit :

EO is better for delves because you want to scale Inpulsa's explosions to one shot packs. Because the explosion damage is a % of enemies' life, it's as strong at depth 100 as it is at depth 1000 if can start the 'chain.'

Ele BV's offense is its defense. EO + acro/phase acro demands less investment then MoM and when any hit can one shot you, dodge is stronger than more 'life.'

Fair enough. I think I'll go to toward the EO version in this case. I was a little inclined to go with the Foil in case I wanted to change to Apep's supremacy occultist build later on, but guess I'll just go with a scepter instead.

On that topic, are you a little experienced with the Apep's occultist build? Wondering how it performs compared to the triple herald, considering it's cost is much higher.

Also, I noticed you're using the Self temp chain with HH and Zerphi's heart. Do you feel that's decent for delving? or too squishy due to lack of resists?

Occultist
+ 34% less elemental damage taken (1-0.75*0.88) from Incandescent heart's -25% elemental damage taken, Apep's +3% to max res,
+ High curse effect, minimum of 2 curses
+ ES (more 'life' than life, frees one flask)
+ Wicked ward, Apep's faster start of energy shield recharge
+ Gain phys/non-chaos as chaos
+ Profane bloom (25% chance Inpulsa)
+ Malediction (you take 10% reduced damage, enemies take 10% increased damage)
+ One of Forbidden Power/Void Beacon/Vile Bastion
+ 100% chaos resistance

- Ghost Reaver halves your energy shield recharge rate if you want ES leech

Elementalist
+ Reduced herald mana reservation, 25% elemental penetration
+ Minimum of 25% (20*Inpulsa's 1.25) more damage from shock
+ Dual wield gain weapons, scales gained elemental damage
+ Proliferates shocks and freezes
+ Acrobatics/Phase Acrobatics
+ Inpulsa

An elementalist's high offence is their defense, freezes and shatters are two of the strongest defenses in the game. An occultist trades this offense for reduced elemental damage taken.

I'm testing self-curse Zerphi's. Depth 500+ isn't a problem for my normal setup nor my Zerphi's setup. I'm tri-herald, have more than 6k life, and 75% fire, 75% cold, 79% lightning res unflasked.

I can post both pastebins when I'm home.

I need to vorici bench chrome my corrupted shackles and finish crafting my ring.

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Crackulous a écrit :

Occultist
+ 34% less elemental damage taken (1-0.75*0.88) from Incandescent heart's -25% elemental damage taken, Apep's +3% to max res,
+ High curse effect, minimum of 2 curses
+ ES (more 'life' than life, frees one flask)
+ Wicked ward, Apep's faster start of energy shield recharge
+ Gain phys/non-chaos as chaos
+ Profane bloom (25% chance Inpulsa)
+ Malediction (you take 10% reduced damage, enemies take 10% increased damage)
+ One of Forbidden Power/Void Beacon/Vile Bastion
+ 100% chaos resistance

- Ghost Reaver halves your energy shield recharge rate if you want ES leech

Elementalist
+ Reduced herald mana reservation, 25% elemental penetration
+ Minimum of 25% (20*Inpulsa's 1.25) more damage from shock
+ Dual wield gain weapons, scales elemental damage
+ Proliferates shocks and freezes
+ Acrobatics/Phase Acrobatics
+ Inpulsa

An elementalist's high offence is their defense, freezes and shatters are two of the strongest defenders in the game. An occultist trades this offense for reduced elemental damage taken.

I'm testing self-curse Zerphi's. Depth 500+ isn't a problem for both my normal build and my Zerphi's build. I'm tri-herald, have more than 6k life, and 75% fire, 75% cold, 79% lightning res unflasked.

I can post both pastebins when I'm home.

That'd be nice. I got myself a headhunter through the reliquary and during incursion i always wanted to play with HH, thus I'm remaking a BV. Just was undecisive with what build to go. I mostly just wanna do both lvl 100 and Depth 600 for the endgame grind, which i can already do on my Zerphi VD PP but wouldnt really be able to enjoy the HH part of it.

Is self curse worth with just HH or is Zerphi's "necessary" for it to be worth?

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worldpk a écrit :

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Crackulous a écrit :

Occultist
+ 34% less elemental damage taken (1-0.75*0.88) from Incandescent heart's -25% elemental damage taken, Apep's +3% to max res,
+ High curse effect, minimum of 2 curses
+ ES (more 'life' than life, frees one flask)
+ Wicked ward, Apep's faster start of energy shield recharge
+ Gain phys/non-chaos as chaos
+ Profane bloom (25% chance Inpulsa)
+ Malediction (you take 10% reduced damage, enemies take 10% increased damage)
+ One of Forbidden Power/Void Beacon/Vile Bastion
+ 100% chaos resistance

- Ghost Reaver halves your energy shield recharge rate if you want ES leech

Elementalist
+ Reduced herald mana reservation, 25% elemental penetration
+ Minimum of 25% (20*Inpulsa's 1.25) more damage from shock
+ Dual wield gain weapons, scales elemental damage
+ Proliferates shocks and freezes
+ Acrobatics/Phase Acrobatics
+ Inpulsa

An elementalist's high offence is their defense, freezes and shatters are two of the strongest defenders in the game. An occultist trades this offense for reduced elemental damage taken.

I'm testing self-curse Zerphi's. Depth 500+ isn't a problem for both my normal build and my Zerphi's build. I'm tri-herald, have more than 6k life, and 75% fire, 75% cold, 79% lightning res unflasked.

I can post both pastebins when I'm home.

That'd be nice. I got myself a headhunter through the reliquary and during incursion i always wanted to play with HH, thus I'm remaking a BV. Just was undecisive with what build to go. I mostly just wanna do both lvl 100 and Depth 600 for the endgame grind, which i can already do on my Zerphi VD PP but wouldnt really be able to enjoy the HH part of it.

Is self curse worth with just HH or is Zerphi's "necessary" for it to be worth?

If you want to try Zerphi's, you should self-curse. Zerphi's isn't like headhunter, you need to increase the buff's duration. The good news is it costs 7 regrets to exchange crit/crit multi nodes for curse nodes, the builds are interchangeable. It's fun - you have soul eater 100% of the time (20 second+ soul eater), longer headhunter buffs, and longer flask effects.

It's half ele BV and half this -

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2170998

Edit - I didn't answer your question, sorry. HH's 20 second buffs are enough, don't self-curse. Koam's roots are bad if you don't have soul eater/aren't farming Uber Elder.

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Crackulous a écrit :

If you want to try Zerphi's, you should self-curse. Zerphi's isn't like headhunter, you need to increase the buff's duration. The good news is it costs 7 regrets to exchange crit/crit multi nodes for curse nodes, the builds are interchangeable. It's fun - you have soul eater 100% of the time (20 second+ soul eater), longer headhunter buffs, and longer flask effects.

It's half ele BV and half this -

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2170998

Edit - I didn't answer your question, sorry. HH's 20 second buffs are enough, don't self-curse. Koam's roots are bad if you don't have soul eater.

Alright thanks for the helpful answers man. I'll go with typical triple herald BV and just slap the headhunter by itself then. I'll try going EO and switch to non EO if I end up liking it less than my ele back in incursion.

I enjoy this build. But I have a problem, I can’t kill Uber Elder. I ask you to see my profile and tell me what to do next. Thank you in advance.

Hi i'm playing the non crit version and im trying to improve my tankiness atm im acro phase acro mom (around 650 unreserved mana) but i had to loose my 4link herald of ice so i eas thinking of dropping mom and going dual curse warlord's mark enfeeble and grace do you think grace/enfeeble is tankier or shall i just dont bother getting mom nor whisper of doom and just hunt for some more life cluster?

Hi, I'm on 4.9k life and I currently die a lot and not sure on what I need to do next tbh.

This is currently my gear, can someone give me some tips on which gear I can improve on.

Thanks

I'm finished and satisfied with both ele BV setups. The skill trees are interchangable, costs 7 regrets.

Self-curse temp chains Zerphi's + HH setup for mapping -

- 6.6k life
- 8% life regen while moving
- 40% attack dodge, 30% spell dodge
- 75 fire, 75 cold, 79 light res unflasked
- Herald of Ash, Ice, Thunder, Purity of Lightning
- 60% increased temp chains curse effect
- 20 second soul eater, 40 second HH buffs
- 14.5 second BV duration
- Doubled flask effect duration

- Warding flasks break the build, risk in ele weak/vuln maps
- Cannot self-curse in hexproof maps
- Not 100% ele conversion (no hrimsorrow), need to reroll phys reflect maps
- Your FPS is inversely proportional to the number of buffs you have
- Soul eater doesn't increase BV's DPS

Path of Building - https://pastebin.com/qW3RJwAw (unflasked, no shock)

Path of Building assumes shocks grant 50% more damage. In practice, an elementalist's shock grants (20*shock effect)% more damage.










Normal setup -

- 6.6k life
- 9.5% life regen while moving
- 40% attack dodge, 30% spell dodge
- Herald of Ash, Ice, Thunder, Purity (applies blind), Hatred, Clarity

Path of Building - https://pastebin.com/4ydRw1he (unflasked, no VRF, no shock)










Uber Elder setup -

- 7k life
- 9.5% life regen while moving
- 40% attack dodge, 30% spell dodge
- Herald of Ash, Ice, Thunder, Purity (applies blind), Hatred, Clarity
- Cannot be slowed base speed

Path of Building - https://pastebin.com/diAyBjeD (unflasked, no VRF, no shock)

Change these items on the normal setup -

- from Controlled Destruction to Spell Echo

- from Mark of the Shaper to Rare Ring

- from Rare Boots to Kaom's Roots

Trade damage for 'cannot be slowed below base speed' and life.

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Crackulous a écrit :

I'm finished and satisfied with both ele BV setups. The skill trees are interchangable, costs 7 regrets.

Self-curse temp chains Zerphi's + HH setup for mapping -

- 6.6k life
- 8% life regen while moving
- 40% attack dodge, 30% spell dodge
- 75 fire, 75 cold, 79 light res unflasked
- Herald of Ash, Ice, Thunder, Purity of Lightning
- 60% increased temp chains curse effect
- 20 second soul eater, 40 second HH buffs

Path of Building - https://pastebin.com/TsCWuG6S

That looks absolutely amazing! Would you mind uploading a video with double nemesis? Id love to see that.

My first ever HC Shaper attempt & kill! :-)

Went in for a dps check and got the kill. My gear isn't that crazy, sitting only at 300-400k dps, so I had to actually do the fight mechanics :D

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