[3.6] Triple Herald Blade Vortex Elementalist

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Lynes a écrit :
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Crackulous a écrit :
I'm finished and satisfied with both ele BV setups. The skill trees are interchangable, costs 7 regrets.

Self-curse temp chains Zerphi's + HH setup for mapping -

- 6.6k life
- 8% life regen while moving
- 40% attack dodge, 30% spell dodge
- 75 fire, 75 cold, 79 light res unflasked
- Herald of Ash, Ice, Thunder, Purity of Lightning
- 60% increased temp chains curse effect
- 20 second soul eater, 40 second HH buffs

Path of Building - https://pastebin.com/TsCWuG6S









That looks absolutely amazing! Would you mind uploading a video with double nemesis? Id love to see that.


Cons of the build (to be less biased)

- Warding flasks break the build, at risk in ele weak/vuln maps
- Cannot self-curse in hexproof maps
- Not 100% ele conversion (no hrimsorrow), need to reroll phys reflect maps
- Your FPS is inversely proportional to the number of buffs you have

I doubt I could record a high FPS video of this build, my PC is bad. :(

Plays like this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkWhvVAxIo0

- CuteDog's has 10% less curse effect (soul eater and HH buffs are more or less the same duration)
- Jugg doesn't need Kaom's Roots
- Soul eater increases Consecrated Path and Whirling Blades' attack speed, increases BV's cast speed (DPS increase to Consecrated Path, not BV)
- BV's duration is 14.5 seconds thanks to temp chains
- CuteDog has better MTX
Dernière édition par Crackulous#7496, le 19 oct. 2018 à 11:47:41

I asked for help several times with my build but no one wants to help. It’s very unpleasant that I’ve invested so much in a build whose author ignores me.(
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Crackulous a écrit :
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Lynes a écrit :
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Crackulous a écrit :
I'm finished and satisfied with both ele BV setups. The skill trees are interchangable, costs 7 regrets.

Self-curse temp chains Zerphi's + HH setup for mapping -

- 6.6k life
- 8% life regen while moving
- 40% attack dodge, 30% spell dodge
- 75 fire, 75 cold, 79 light res unflasked
- Herald of Ash, Ice, Thunder, Purity of Lightning
- 60% increased temp chains curse effect
- 20 second soul eater, 40 second HH buffs

Path of Building - https://pastebin.com/TsCWuG6S









That looks absolutely amazing! Would you mind uploading a video with double nemesis? Id love to see that.


Cons of the build (to be less biased)

- Warding flasks break the build, at risk in ele weak/vuln maps
- Cannot self-curse in hexproof maps
- Not 100% ele conversion (no hrimsorrow), need to reroll phys reflect maps
- Your FPS is inversely proportional to the number of buffs you have

I doubt I could record a high FPS video of this build, my PC is bad. :(

Plays like this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkWhvVAxIo0

- CuteDog's has 10% less curse effect (soul eater and HH buffs are more or less the same duration)
- Jugg doesn't need Kaom's Roots
- Soul eater increases Consecrated Path and Whirling Blades' attack speed, increases BV's cast speed (DPS increase to Consecrated Path, not BV)
- BV's duration is 14.5 seconds thanks to temp chains
- CuteDog has better MTX


This is absolutly insance! This + herald explosions of this build is something I have to try. Definitely will this in standard when Delve ends.
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Astralin a écrit :

I asked for help several times with my build but no one wants to help. It’s very unpleasant that I’ve invested so much in a build whose author ignores me.(


My recommendations -

1)

Choose MoM or Acro/Phase Acro, not both. Refund skill points for two more jewel sockets and Will of Blades. Socket damage jewels (i.e. ele grand spectrums) or flat life eyes.

2)

Gem setup

Inpulsa - BV (change Controlled Destruction to Concentrated Effect)
Starkonja - Whirling Blades (no change)
Hrimsorrows - Heralds (change Enlighten to Enhance if Acro/Phase Acro)
Kaom's - No sockets
Weapon 1 - CWDT - Immortal Call - Increased Duration (no change or change to Herald of Purity + Blind)
Weapon 2 - Change to Orb of Storms - Arcane Surge - Power Charge on Crit

3)

Change your boots to Kaom's Roots (for cannot be slowed below base speed) and Mark of the Shaper to a 60+ cold res and 10+ fire res ring (for 75 all res).

Purchase a ring - http://poe.trade/search/otookiukinores

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Uber Elder is a mechanical fight for non-Zerphi's VD pathfinders. Ele BV is a high offense, low defense, 'melee' build. You have a jugg, learn the fight on your jugg before trying on elementalist.

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Lynes a écrit :

This is absolutly insance! This + herald explosions of this build is something I have to try. Definitely will this in standard when Delve ends.


Edit - Corrected

Because maxing your resistances can be a problem, I would recommend purchasing the temp chains enchant on a non-Starkonja helmet (i.e. Lightpoacher). Allocate 1 skill point to Alacrity (+30 dex) if you need dex.

+15% all res - Alira
+25% all res - Skill Tree

You need 95% all res from your aura, jewels, helm, rings, and weapons/shields.

You'll have sufficient mana for Purity of Elements (+27% all res) or PoF/PoI/PoL (+41% fire/cold/lightning) + triheralds because you're an elementalist.
Dernière édition par Crackulous#7496, le 20 oct. 2018 à 02:37:46
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Crackulous a écrit :

If your temp chains gem is lower level than your elder ring's warlord's mark's level, you can both self curse temp chains and warlord's mark curse enemies for endurance charge generation and life and mana leech.

Because maxing your resistances can be a problem, I would recommend purchasing the temp chains enchant on a non-Starkonja helmet (i.e. Lightpoacher). Allocate 1 skill point to Alacrity (+30 dex) if you need dex.

+15 all res - Alira
+25 all res - Skill Tree

You need 95% all res from your aura, jewels, helm, rings, and weapons/shields.

You'll have sufficient mana for Purity of Elements (+27% all res) or PoF/PoI/PoL (41% res of one element) + triheralds because you're an elementalist.


Why does temp chains have to be a lower level?
And I guess I need 95% on all to counter ele weakness, right?
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Lynes a écrit :
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Crackulous a écrit :

If your temp chains gem is lower level than your elder ring's warlord's mark's level, you can both self curse temp chains and warlord's mark curse enemies for endurance charge generation and life and mana leech.

Because maxing your resistances can be a problem, I would recommend purchasing the temp chains enchant on a non-Starkonja helmet (i.e. Lightpoacher). Allocate 1 skill point to Alacrity (+30 dex) if you need dex.

+15 all res - Alira
+25 all res - Skill Tree

You need 95% all res from your aura, jewels, helm, rings, and weapons/shields.

You'll have sufficient mana for Purity of Elements (+27% all res) or PoF/PoI/PoL (41% res of one element) + triheralds because you're an elementalist.


Why does temp chains have to be a lower level?
And I guess I need 95% on all to counter ele weakness, right?


Tested a higher level temp chains gem. You're correct, it doesn't.

In one HoT hit -

1) Temp chains curses the enemy

2) Shackles reflects temp chains

3) Warlord's curses the enemy

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Curse

The elder mod acts like a curse on hit corruption. The Curse on Hit Support's curses are applied first, elder/shaper mods' curses second.

Purchase any level/quality temp chains gem, neither have any effect in practice.

You'll need 135% all res to be 75% all res in Merciless (-60% all res). 15 + 25 + 95 = 135.

You'll need 34% more all res (i.e. from a Wise Oak/bismuth flask) to be safe in ele weak maps.
Dernière édition par Crackulous#7496, le 19 oct. 2018 à 16:52:11
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Crackulous a écrit :
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Lynes a écrit :
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Crackulous a écrit :

If your temp chains gem is lower level than your elder ring's warlord's mark's level, you can both self curse temp chains and warlord's mark curse enemies for endurance charge generation and life and mana leech.

Because maxing your resistances can be a problem, I would recommend purchasing the temp chains enchant on a non-Starkonja helmet (i.e. Lightpoacher). Allocate 1 skill point to Alacrity (+30 dex) if you need dex.

+15 all res - Alira
+25 all res - Skill Tree

You need 95% all res from your aura, jewels, helm, rings, and weapons/shields.

You'll have sufficient mana for Purity of Elements (+27% all res) or PoF/PoI/PoL (41% res of one element) + triheralds because you're an elementalist.


Why does temp chains have to be a lower level?
And I guess I need 95% on all to counter ele weakness, right?


Tested a higher level temp chains gem. You're correct, it doesn't.

In one HoT hit -

1) Temp chains curses the enemy

2) Shackles reflects temp chains

3) Warlord's curses the enemy

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Curse

The elder mod acts like a curse on hit corruption. The Curse on Hit Support's curses are applied first, elder/shaper mods' curses second.

You need 135% all res to be 75% all res in Merciless (-60% all res). 15 + 25 + 95 = 135.

You'll need 34% more all res (i.e. from a Wise Oak/bismuth flask) to be safe in ele weak maps.

Oh, I get that. Thought you meant 95% total.
Thanks for putting in that much effort and testing temporal chains!

Nonetheless, If I dont want to craft a stat stick myself, would you change anything on my search? http://poe.trade/search/oedoumamaohiki
Dernière édition par Lynes#1843, le 19 oct. 2018 à 19:57:20
If you want the practice the Uber Elder fight, try this -

https://poesimulator.github.io/

- Set 'RF DPS' to your Path of Building unflasked, no shock BV DPS*(1+(0.20*shock effect))

For example, if your PoB DPS is 750k and you have 30% increased shock effect, set RF DPS to 750k*(1+(0.20*1.3)) = 945k

- Set Regen to anything lower than your max leech rate (20% of your max life)

- Set RF Degen to 0

- Set SR DPS to 0

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Lynes a écrit :

Oh, I get that. Thought you meant 95% total.
Thanks for putting in that much effort and testing temporal chains!

Nonetheless, If I dont want to craft a stat stick myself, would you change anything on my search? http://poe.trade/search/oedoumamaohiki


Budget - http://poe.trade/search/amimimarinomog (online)

Non-budget - http://poe.trade/search/erewazubohoyah (online + offline)
Dernière édition par Crackulous#7496, le 2 nov. 2018 à 03:14:02
Not really feeling the build anymore. It really starts to struggle at highest content - it's too rippy. I can't push past lvl 95 because every now and then something will kill me. And that's with MoM and Acro. You just get pooped on by stuff in delve or some random combo of mods in maps.

Red elder and guardians I can do deathless, but can struggle with the Eradicator since the build has no sustain.

Shaper guardians two I can do deathless, but Chimera is very rippy. Shaper I did with one death, probably could do it deathless with a bit of practice.

But still, I die too often on this build. And the deaths will be 99% of time you absolutely destroy everything on screen and then suddently POOOP you are dead.

But that's PoE I guess, especially with no endurance charges and no amor.

„I don't give a fuck if it was his tenth anniversary with his goddamn neckbeard...“
„If they think I'm going to let them sweep this pizza guy thing under the rug...“
No mod action. Business as usual.
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Odoakar a écrit :
Not really feeling the build anymore. It really starts to struggle at highest content - it's too rippy. I can't push past lvl 95 because every now and then something will kill me. And that's with MoM and Acro. You just get pooped on by stuff in delve or some random combo of mods in maps.

Red elder and guardians I can do deathless, but can struggle with the Eradicator since the build has no sustain.

Shaper guardians two I can do deathless, but Chimera is very rippy. Shaper I did with one death, probably could do it deathless with a bit of practice.

But still, I die too often on this build. And the deaths will be 99% of time you absolutely destroy everything on screen and then suddently POOOP you are dead.

But that's PoE I guess, especially with no endurance charges and no amor.




Yeah, had that issue in incursion with it too, sometimes doing just well, then get deleted. But imo it's not so bad compared to some other builds. Couldnt make it past 93 in incursion, but that's mostly because i started focusing on trying to clear UElder and I'd die very often so I gave up leveling.

A little confused about the "no endurance charges" though as Warlord Mark's should keep you topped up to 3 charges.

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