[3.15] Fivers Frost Blades Raider (Outdated)

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trashchomper a écrit :
Sorry to ask again, but how do you guys deal with Blighted maps? Did you change something in build to improve clear/win chances on such maps? Anyone tried to include some %life explosion on kill effect?


Usually I rely on my damage to take care of things. I stack zombies to slow the enemies down as much as possible ^^

AFAIK no one has tried life explosions, but it's a good idea.

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Microchaton a écrit :
I don't really get the appeal of maim & -15 mana cost on chest armor? Maim only increases physical damage and we don't do any? You also shouldnt have any mana issues with soul raker leech and the int nodes you get on tree


"Supported Skills deal (15-30)% more Physical Damage"
We still SCALE on physical damage, even if our output dmg is all cold.

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Gnomiro a écrit :

Isn't "Holy Dominion" even superior to Solidity? 12 All Res, 12 Phys and 12 Elemental Damage is not bad!

You are right, but I think it's also a lot more expensive. But we should add that to the list.


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Zestrenocya a écrit :
Hi there.

Really love the build. Started a little slow but once I got my gems in the tree things started improving dramatically.

One question. I really hate the feel of Darkray Vectors. I play slower than most and the speed I lose once I drop my frenzy charges really annoys me. (Doesn’t help that I played super speedy cyclone last league.).

Is there anything out there that might serve as a decent replacement? I have the vectors and have been using them but I’m wondering if there’s another option that wouldn’t cost me a ton of ex or cripple my DPS.

Thanks for all the build work.

Z.

You don't have to use them, but even the bonuses you get from that single frenzy charge makes it better than most options. You could go for something like atziri's step I guess? But yeah. You won't be able to replace them without crippling your damage.

Also, I'm glad you're enjoying the build! :)

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azell1000 a écrit :



i did some crafts yesterday :)

Jesus fucking christ, man.
I am very close to reporting your comment for containing porn.

(srsly, great job tho!)

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SirDudesonJr a écrit :
Hey Fiver,

Great guide mate, really good stuff.

I played Cyclone last league and I wanted to mix it up a bit and play something that takes a little more skill to get used to the game a bit more (only been playing for 2 months).

With that in mind, I don't know how the hell you're squeezing so much DPS out of your budget build in PoB. I am only pulling 50k average at the moment with a 5 link, but if I emulate the same (at least I think I am) with your build, you're still pulling an extra 50k on top of mine = 101k all up.


Any pointers? https://pastebin.com/JJpVV0Nm

You mean 500k, right? 50k is your average damage per hit.
So a few things. You've forgotten to import the workaround for nightblade+elusive. I see you have the multistrike flask, but you need the others as well. (I know some parts of my forum guide are outdated, gonna work on them soon).
add this to any of your items in pob
WORKAROUNDS
20% increased critical strike chance
+1% to critical strike chance
+99% to critical strike multiplier
52% increased movement speed
26% chance to dodge attacks
26% chance to dodge spells
NIGHTBLADE + ELUSIVE WORKAROUND
44% more melee attack speed
10% less attack damage
10% increased melee physical damage
22% more damage
MULTISTRIKE WORKAROUND

And ofc, remove the 3.8 multistrike flask, when you do this.

You are also only on a 5L. You can buy 6L armours fairly cheap at this point. Buying a base and crafting it yourself with just essences or fossils or whatever, will get you a better one than the one you have. If you are worried about being able to get 4R on a full evasion armour, you can get a hybrid armour+eva chestpiece.
But even on a 5L, you should have a different setup. You aren't using rage, which means you cant use berserk (which is arguably one of the strongest burst skills in the game).
My 5L would be: Frost Blades - EDWAS - Nightblade - Rage - Ancestral Call/Multistrike

You also dont really have much damage on your rare gear. No "EDWAS" or added damage.

I would consider dropping your jewel slots for your rare jewels, and get Disciple of the Slaughter instead.

You can definitely squeeze out more damage. :)

On another note, you should lower the lvl of your flame dash and frost bomb. There's no reason to level your flame dash at all, and having that one and frost bomb on too high level will increased the INT requirement.

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Smartbinder a écrit :
Hey guys, t1 dps fb raider (for this noment) itt.
Don't really use nightblade gem due to rapid loss of elusive effect, beter use hypothermia as it offers greater damage boost + almost permafreeze for almost whole content including bosses.
Abyssus is really rippy setup. But probably worth it when you reach level 100, or don't want to level up anymore (or even want to reach t1 in dps ladder lol).
Frost blades enchant on helmet is not worth it effect. Better use bloodrage enchant, dmg loss is about 1%, with greater attack speed.
As a fact, if you don't want to use any other auras, heralds or aspect, you don't need reduced mana reserve on shield. Thus you can have some dps shields with attack speed and open suffix to craft double damage there.

I appreciate the input. I agree with you for most part. The FB enchant is more of a luxury thing than anything vital to the build. I do however swap out bloodrage when I fight Uber, so with my setup BR enchant wouldn't benefit me then.
I think Hypothermia VS Nightblade is still hard to decide. I'm still leaning towards NB right now but at the same time I kind of miss Hypothermia.
You can still fit stuff like double damage on a shield even with mana reservation. :)





Don't panic.
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DoomedNecromancer a écrit :
So, I've been trying to find a decent FB Raider that can be started up with little currency for a while now and from what I see this build is superb. Astramentis burnt a hole in my pocket though but I have a couple of ex and ~150c left over. My query is, how do we juggle stats when going from astramentis to the Hyrri's amulet or Pandemonius? I can't see - in the PoB - a way to nail the int and strength requirements through gear. Lethal Pride nails the strength yeah but that's not exactly budget! Is it just a case of taking a few +30 nodes to patch it up?

Edit: Apparently I skipped over the specific FAQ part pertaining to int/str. My bad. +30 nodes it is/lower level gems/debuffs.


Lol, you got it. :)

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pandadarren a écrit :
hi fiver, just want to comment that this build is an absolute fun to play with esp with the mass shatter.

but i've been troubled by the progression and im kinda stuck at 5.3k hp. not sure how i can progress from here as priority. kind to help me take a look if its not too much of a hassle? thanks

especially if i want to increase survivability** i find myself too much of a scrub dying too easily sometimes.


In terms of life, you actually get quite a lot the last 10 levels or so. Between 92-100 you will gain around 250 life.
But a Lethal Pride would also give you a lot.

Pandemonius would also do a lot for your survival, even though you will lose life from using it, since it will blind enemies.

And this might sound cliché, but offense is sometimes the best defense. You are still using a wasp nest, and when you upgrade that one, that will also help. :)

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TROKET a écrit :
Hi, could you watch my character? It is very difficult to collect the charges on the bosses. I collected some good items, but I feel uncomfortable. Where should I focus? In level or in items? (I'm sorry for Google translate)


You need to replace your Tabula Rasa. Claw is good.
Remove Quicksilver Flask, and use Atziri's Promise.
You need to take Phase Acrobatics! It is very important for our survival. :)


Don't panic.
hey not sure if this has been answered but could i replace the movement gems for leap slam?
Hello,
Great build,
Can you please tell me why my Crit is so low ?
https://pastebin.com/iwuZXw1y

Am I missing something ?
Buying new claws soon but still wont be around 50-60%

Thanks,
Snow
@fiver coz aoe is't that good i changed frost blades for iceshot and rider for dead eye. Tree is almost the same (just few nodes for bows). Its also cheaper coz 2x 6 link on chest and bow cost around 8 ex so thats the price of the claw.

U just need jewel for 180c but biuld is flexible u can play anything.
Dernière édition par azell1000, le 17 sept. 2019 11:02:43
Hey Fiver, first off I'm having an incredible time with the build, the shatter makes my heart go Boom and it's such a joy to play!

I have a question tho:

I absolutely HATE the rage mechanic and The additional buttonpress with berserk is a bit much for me (yeah I know, stupid, I just like having whirling blades once on my mouse and once on my spacebar *cough*)

Would it be viable to go with

FB
WED
Ruthless
Multistrike
Hypothermia
Nightblade/Ice Bite

instead?

If so what would be the best setup here? Pob is giving me superweird numbers when I play around with Nightblade setups.
Hey u suggest 2x Ewar's Mirage to lvling up but i can't use frostblade with it do you use another skill to lvl up or is there something i didn't understand ? x)
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TeTounes a écrit :
Hey u suggest 2x Ewar's Mirage to lvling up but i can't use frostblade with it do you use another skill to lvl up or is there something i didn't understand ? x)


If you have Nightblade socketed you cant use Swords.
Use something like Added Cold damage instead when you are leveling.


Don't panic.
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GTLegendary a écrit :
hey not sure if this has been answered but could i replace the movement gems for leap slam?


You can't use leap slam with claws.


Don't panic.
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n0rthshore a écrit :
Hello,
Great build,
Can you please tell me why my Crit is so low ?
https://pastebin.com/iwuZXw1y

Am I missing something ?
Buying new claws soon but still wont be around 50-60%

Thanks,
Snow


Well your diamond flask isn't activated, but more importantly, you have frostbite in your CWDT setup. Since you have 2 curses but only can use one of them, Assassin's Mark isn't counted.
If you remove Frostbite, Assassin's Mark will be accounted for and you will have more crit.


Don't panic.

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