Why POE have so many one-shots, and how to reduce it?

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Nurvus a écrit :

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CyberWizardB5 a écrit :

but to loose 2 stacks of debuff it takes 10-15s this mean you have to wait another 5-10s doing nothing

You lose stacks of Trauma every X seconds you spend since the last time you stacked Trauma.

Updated suggestion/wording:

Trauma

Trauma Treshold: X% of your (Health+ES) within 1 second.
Everytime you take damage that exceeds the Trauma Treshold, you stack 1 Trauma.
Trauma reduces healing taken (10~20%), and perhaps even movement speed (10%).
Trauma stacks up to 5.
Trauma decays (loses 1 stack) every 3~5s, but stacking Trauma resets the timer.
Damage below the Trauma Treshold does not stop the decay.
Trauma might have a harsher effect on Life Leech (15~20%) than on Regeneration or Flasks (10%).
Energy Shield would also be affected both in regeneration speed, and regeneration delay.

So you can still fight and take damage.
Trauma simply makes you want to stop facetanking huge damage, even if your VP can handle it.

In any case, the numbers provided are illustrative.

Look it not like your idea is that bad I also alredy had ideas to indirectly nerf VP
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1894320 (mine was probably even worse)

But, the following discussion, some parts in private, some in another thread, only made me realise that the hability to insta-leech have to go for good or else this game will continue to be unbalanced and the disagreement between fans of different playstyles will only get worse.

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CyberWizardB5 a écrit :

the hability to insta-leech have to go for good or else this game will continue to be unbalanced

I disagree.

100% insta-leech is an issue.
Not being punished for facetanking heavy damage BECAUSE you have insta-leech is an issue.

So nerf VP a bit, making 30~50% of leech apply instantly (the rest normally or simply lost) AND add Trauma.

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Marxone a écrit :

Can you name the "one shots" you are talking about?

"on death mechanic" procupines, volotiles, and reflect when your dmg is high enough.

Did you just list Touch of God as a problematic one-shot mechanic?

Regarding the insta leech and face tanking, i would actually add some punishing mechanic to this type of building, mainly to bosses, like stackable more dmg increase debuff, kinda like shock but not considered as status ailment or to be removable in general, just to add punishment towards face tanking of certain encounters.
Sure, it would have to oneshot them and survive - kinda like Phoenix detonation.
Guardian of Phoenix is actually great example of fun boss encounter, all guardians are well made (except Hydra, fck Hydra)

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Michraj a écrit :

"on death mechanic" procupines, volotiles, and reflect when your dmg is high enough.

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SodanKerjuu a écrit :

Did you just list Touch of God as a problematic one-shot mechanic?

The biggest problem is not the damage spikes itself but the wrong choices ppl make because of excessive sustain

Excessive sustain makes the game look easier than it really is and encourage ppl to build glass cannons

Whithout excessive sustain it will be possible to lower the char HP without killing him in less a sec and without the damage look like a joke.

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CyberWizardB5 a écrit :

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Michraj a écrit :

"on death mechanic" procupines, volotiles, and reflect when your dmg is high enough.

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SodanKerjuu a écrit :

Did you just list Touch of God as a problematic one-shot mechanic?

The biggest problem is not the damage spikes itself but the wrong choices ppl make bacause of excessive sustain

Excessive sustain makes the game look easier than it really is and encourage ppl to build glass cannons

Whithout excessive sustain it will be possible to lower the char HP without killing him in less a sec and without the damage look like a joke.

the relationship between monster damage and player recovery is what made huge ehp pools OP in the first place.
monster damage in the end is tuned around player recovery, if player recovery is super high monster damage becomes super high in order to still threaten the players survival. if monster damage is super high ehp becomes far more important compared to mitigation and if player recovery is super high mitigation starts being ineffective because it creates "overheal"

so in the end due to current health recovery levels ehp got massive buffs while its supposed equal mitigation got major nerfs breaking the balance between the 2


things i would like to see in the game would be blanket nerfs to leech values to compensate for ascendancy powercreep, maybe some enemies having (at least a portion) of % max hp damage in their regular attacks, possibly counting the physical and elemental portion of an attack (particularly map mods) as 2 different attacks which both go through a block/dodge/eva/miss check to make these stats perform better against burst damage scenarios. im honestly not sure about armor, something like a keystone that lets armor mitigate elemental damage as well while giving you x% less armor?