Are there any other games which gate content behind RNG like PoE?

The only other's I can think of are F2P as well. Now what reason would a F2P game have for gating content people want to do behind RNG. Its almost like they WANT you to have to play for an unnessisary amount of time to accomplish a small task. But what motive could they possibly have for such a thing? Hmmmmm

play warframe ...

PoE is its little brother

But yeah there's too much reliance of too rare of drops.

Exalts are too expensive to risk. Eternals got removed which forced players to rely even more on RNG just to get good rolls on equipment.

Maps are limited and once you run out you have to refarm them again. (At least in Torchlight 2 the Maps could be easily bought from a Vendor) Make Maps a vendor thing I say. Make Crafting the big "money sink" not mapping. Make certain crafting recipes way more forgiving. I still think 1500 Fusings way too expensive.

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BoondockSaint a écrit :

There is one major flaw with the game, and until it is changed/fixed, game will be fucked up forever.

And that flaw is that maps are main currency sink in the game, when it should be crafting.

If this would be changed, game could improve in so many directions and fields.

werd

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Derpey a écrit :

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BoondockSaint a écrit :

There is one major flaw with the game, and until it is changed/fixed, game will be fucked up forever.

And that flaw is that maps are main currency sink in the game, when it should be crafting.

If this would be changed, game could improve in so many directions and fields.

Sad part is GGG rather listen to the no-lifers, who all claim the game to be "fine" in its current state.

From what i see its low level players who say things are fine. One dude last week was telling us how great mapping was with a 65 toon. I was like WTF over. You have never even experienced running 20 74s in row and getting crap back. You never experaince 40-45 corrupted area for one shot at atziri let alone 1600 for shot at uber.

(thats the real math BTW 40 corupt zone yeild a midnight - 40 atzri runs yeild a hope 40 x 40 = 1600)

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Aim_Deep a écrit :

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Derpey a écrit :

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BoondockSaint a écrit :

There is one major flaw with the game, and until it is changed/fixed, game will be fucked up forever.

And that flaw is that maps are main currency sink in the game, when it should be crafting.

If this would be changed, game could improve in so many directions and fields.

Sad part is GGG rather listen to the no-lifers, who all claim the game to be "fine" in its current state.

From what i see its low level players who say things are fine. One dude last week was telling us how great mapping was with a 65 toon. I was like WTF over. You have never even experienced running 20 74s in row and getting crap back. You never experaince 40-45 corrupted area for one shot at atziri let alone 1600 for shot at uber.

(thats the real math BTW 40 corupt zone yeild a midnight - 40 atzri runs yeild a hope 40 x 40 = 1600)

I will never understand why that shit isn't just 25% each piece, it's a retarded decision.
And yeah, people who suck up to GGG lately have either been no-lifers who can play 24/7 and therefore have no issue in scraping up wealth, or the insanely casual players who barely even reach maps and just "loves" all the "build diversity" this game brings, even though it's gated atm.

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Aim_Deep a écrit :

(thats the real math BTW 40 corupt zone yeild a midnight - 40 atzri runs yeild a hope 40 x 40 = 1600)

Yup...

That's the worst scenario though. Although I normally buy midnight and I always sell my hope...

I think the last hope i got took me about 20 runs.

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BoondockSaint a écrit :

And that flaw is that maps are main currency sink in the game, when it should be crafting.

what? thats somwhow a big design decision that sets this game apart from the rest,
there is no crafting in PoE

items ar ment to be aqquired by drop, crafting is a method alternate to fighting
in games like these, but thats impossible here

upgrading an item is like creating a new (random) drop, always

(u could argu one need to craft a good map in order to aqquire desired items)

currency gain their value by rarety not necessarily from their function

sry, ur solution is invalid

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That's literally what's going on right now though..
The guy has a point, and you gave 0 arguments against it, you sort of just enlightened the issue with your points.

The guy having a "point" doesn't give a solution either nor am I "arguments" against it. Just because I said it's more complicated then that doesn't mean I find the current system okay. Suddenly making uber azitri harder but unlimited doesn't fix anything at all in PoE.

It is literally a tiny part of bonus content that people will complain about if it was unlimited and people with high end gear farming it an unlimited amount of time being ungodly rich. Eventually the gear farmed by uber azitri would be near dirt cheap and anything that uses the items from her would be OP. (Get your 2h azitri axe for 5c and steamroll the entire game)

A simple change such has having uber azitri being unlimited and a select few farming her an unlimited amount of time can have adverse affects for the game.

The point I was making was that this change doesn't give a net positive for the game, you end up with uber azitri being just as bad as "rng gated content".

Unless your telling me just making "aztiri harder but unlimited" will have a complete overwhelming positive change to the game without anything negative and it is better then it is before the change. Otherwise I suggest people crowd around an better suggestion that may be implemented.

Also ignored the original point I made that if it was to be unlimited, they'll have to gut the drop rate to be very low to balance it to have the same rate of azitri items being farmed if it was unlimited.

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Aim_Deep a écrit :

ladders are dead about 2 month in. D3s are still kicking.
i wonder why.

Proofs? I'd like to see some numbers.