Secret recipe revealed

all i know is today i made like 30x 20% quality gems with this recipe/

between my 94 ranger 90 marauder and few 60-80 characters i have. I had ALOT of level 20 gems without quality. And i have a shit ton lvl18-19

made like 4x faster attacks 3x wep ele damage 2x life leech 2x loh and many more....


all im saying is... there really was no need for this recipe. I think things were fine they way they were before....

but hey its here so lets just embrace it i guess.
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Yes, because it will take far less GCP to get all Q20% gems you want. And when you get them, you will never, EVER want more GCP's (except you change build or go twinking). So, they will quckly became useless.
That's more like diminishing gains than straight up uselessness, which would be if there never ever being a reason to use GCPs to begin with.
I think it is great. Great that the game had an almost uknown secret that is now discovered. It adds more depth to the ability of the game to be mystical and surprising.

Since the recipe was already in the game, one could state that the economy was 'wrong' all this time, and that it now can finally adjust to how the creators designed it. Now with this new knowledge, the economy can transform into what it was meant to be.

Also, personally, I think that this recipe makes sense because the difference between getting quality on gems and getting quality on other types of items was quite large.
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MortalKombat3 a écrit :
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VolcanoElixir a écrit :
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I think that recipe is a bit unfair. It makes GCP (quite rare currency, i should admit) quite useless. It also makes dropped Qgems useless.
Only needing one GCP instead of several to 20% a gem makes it more useless 2_2?

Yes, because it will take far less GCP to get all Q20% gems you want. And when you get them, you will never, EVER want more GCP's (except you change build or go twinking). So, they will quckly became useless.
Before recipe was invented/implemented, you had to spend a lot, lot more GCPs to get Q20 gems (people usually crafted Q20 gems from Q13-17 ones, and that gems are RARE to drop, unlike common ones).
Sure, it is attractive to have so easy access for Q20 gems, but that ruins game's economy. Qgems will became too common, and GCP will be as cheap as blessed orb, or even worse


I think you're grossly overestimating how much people will prefer spending hundreds of hours releveling gems compared to just spending some GCPs.

PoE's economy was never designed to be static, this is also why you can't have set rates of trade between currencies that are stable forever (except some of the lower ones). It's an economy of supply and demand, and the new recipe has changed that a bit, and in future it will change again. People will complain then too, and be all "man, things were better when X exalts were worth Y chaos"

Stop living in the past, this is so 24 hours ago
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grepman a écrit :
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Inexium a écrit :
Se experts..

What will happen exactly ?

GCPs price will rise or lower ? sorry if this seems like nooby question
thx

gcp price drops

low-level quality gems become nearly worthless in softcore/anarchy because there are tons of lvl 20 normal gems that never sank.

whoever hoarded high level normal gems just made themselves a small fortune.


The two points you just made are contradictory.

If GCPs drop in price, the threshold for how low quality a gem can be to be considered for GCP'ing it up to 20% gets lower, not higher.

That's the whole idea behind this recipe; it does a better job of playing a bunch of tradeoffs off of each other than the system for gems that exists now.

Now you have a way to trade time for gem quality that doesn't measure time in GCPs. There now exists a three-way currency exchange between time, gem quality, and GCPs that is way more dynamic than it was before.



I dont understand where my points are contradictory

1) GCP long term value goes down
2) lvl 1 13-18% quality gems are now next to worthless
3) those people who amassed a lot of cheap lvl 20 gems (lvl 20 gems were generally cheap on SC besides a few exceptions) now can sell them for more-lvl 1 20% quality gems were usually far more expensive
than lvl 20 normal gems, and even though their price will fall they will still be more expensive than initial investment in cheap lvl 20 gems. that's EXACTLY how people who knew about the recipe made money.
Dernière édition par grepman#2451, le 22 juil. 2013 à 16:48:41
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2) lvl 1 13-18% quality gems are now next to worthless
Leveling gear.
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VolcanoElixir a écrit :
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2) lvl 1 13-18% quality gems are now next to worthless
Leveling gear.
what exactly do you mean by that ?
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grepman a écrit :

I dont understand where my points are contradictory

1) GCP long term value goes down
2) lvl 1 13-18% quality gems are now next to worthless
3) those people who amassed a lot of cheap lvl 20 gems (lvl 20 gems were generally cheap on SC besides a few exceptions) now can sell them for more-lvl 1 20% quality gems were usually far more expensive
than lvl 20 normal gems, and even though their price will fall they will still be more expensive than initial investment in cheap lvl 20 gems. that's EXACTLY how people who knew about the recipe made money.


C'mon man... GCP long term value goes down, sure.
13-18% gems are now worthless? Do you know how long it takes to get a gem to level 20? I, for one, would certainly rater spend 5 gcp then level a gem to 20. Maybe that's just me.
No one was amassing cheap level 20 gems unless they knew about the recipe. Before today, that was very, very few people.

And now it's leaked, okay. This could only have a positive or at least level the curve between currencies < gcp.
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Fenyx_187 a écrit :

C'mon man... GCP long term value goes down, sure.
13-18% gems are now worthless? Do you know how long it takes to get a gem to level 20? I, for one, would certainly rater spend 5 gcp then level a gem to 20. Maybe that's just me.

lvl 1 13-18% gems are nearly worthless because a lvl ~19.3 normal gem would be worth more.
and when you start a new character youd want lvl 1 20% gem, not 14% gem.

lvl 19 13-18% gems are still valuable

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No one was amassing cheap level 20 gems unless they knew about the recipe. Before today, that was very, very few people.
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few people (including bots), but those who did became pretty rich. overall the new recipe is a softcore bot's heaven because gems dont delevel.

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