Tried the game again in SSF... NOPE! I'll try again in 0.5 to make sure it still sucks!
" Stop making completely false statements. Pretty much any power growth in PoE2 is heavily depending on items. As many, many people stated here, this is the reason why you can get stuck in SSF even in the campaign, cause this is completely relying on rng. You barely get the crafting materials in the amount full casino crafting demands. Advanced crafting in SSF is a one-shot only, hit or miss your whole progression due to the inacceptable state crafting is in. And since power in this game is overly determined by items and Mark and Jonathan made crafting a full casino gamble, there is no possibility to enjoy SFF. And it's surely NOT a case of "git gud"/personal skill or about knowledge or understanding game mechanics. SSF is a dead end, cause the directors fail to deliver crafting tools needed. Don't try to blame knowledge and skill for that, when this is not the reason at all. Dernière édition par AngryGekko#0233, le 9 janv. 2026 à 07:55:22
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" You don't understand that players that kill bosses so fast as light speed, mostly coming from: 1. Players who benefited from patch 0.1.0 where everything was easy to achieve. 2. Players that exploit weaknesses of new coming content. (They are experience to do it in every new League) 3. Players that buy currency with real money.(I skeep from where they buy becouse there are ton ways) 4. Players that use OP builds knowing that GGG didn't find/touched them yet. Balance has much distance until fixed completely. This is the most percentage that ruins a meaningful combat. Show me a video of a Gemling Legionnaire (playing with crossbow)in a full party, killing a Boss alone in less than 3 sec. I see it every day from spesific classes with spesific weapons.... So in conclusion this isn't about (You don't know the game mechanism well) or (Your build is bad implemented). It's all about balance and ofcourse non existent of build diversity wich is a fairytale. |
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" They are statements based on my experiences and on the part of the PoE community I am in. There's a lot of RNG of course. But there's enough options for viable gear that you are close-to sure to get good gear too. Not 100% sure, of course. You could be extremely unlucky and end up with nothing useful. I don't know if that is something that GGG wants to solve, as RNG is a central part of ARPGs. But one thing I've thought about has been a crafting bench that, when used, makes it impossible to otherwise modify the item and to trade it; and that only offers lower tiers of modifiers. Modifiers could be limited at the start when you anyway have only one or two of the lowest tiers available to you. " Sure, but you aren't crafting end game tier or even need to craft exact specific mods on your campaign gear. Slam transform and augment orbs on good bases, regal (or lesser essence) the promising ones, spend those exalts you get to the best gear you happen to have when you got an item with good 3-5 mods. Check the vendors regularly, do a bit of gambling, etc. " And yet, somehow, there's always a set of players - many of whom are the same as last time - who in a few days in SSF from league start are packed with good gear. Weird how they just keep being so lucky time after time. Dernière édition par tzaeru#0912, le 9 janv. 2026 à 08:04:08
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" Yea ofcourse bro becouse playing mercenary with crossbow sucks in all meanings. All these mages press one click and erasing bosses less than 1 sec. 3 sec is very boring time for them. And this called balance and meaningful combat. Really i wanna see from someone one video from Gemling Legionnaire killing a boss in less than 3 sec being in a full party. |
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Crossbow is actually one of the easiest weapons to level with. Grenades are amazing at all stages.
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" How do you mean? These same speeds happen every patch. Do you mean that they were able to gather player experience more easily in 0.1.0 and that that carries over now? " There's for sure lots of underperforming skills; and basically most weapons have 1-2 skills that set up with specific supports are just flat out much better than the rest at bossing. It's pretty common for SSF players to shift their build around a bit in different parts of the game to take the most use out of that. That being said, at the moment, all weapons have a decent way of killing bosses fast'ishly. I imagine spear is prolly worst for it atm, esp during campaign, but there's tricks to make it work better. " This includes SSF players and e.g. me who who doesn't use RMT (and who often plays the first campaign run without trade on a fresh economy). " I do give that there's builds and skills that overperform by a large margin. Like yeah if you don't use like, I don't know, Dark Effigy with your ED/Contagion setup, then esp if you also have mediocre gear, your boss clear speed is gonna be very low. Or if you try to force Rake to work early on, yeah, not going to be fun. Or if you don't want to utilize stun/armour break mechanics to get that sweet super boss damage on your mace setup, then again yeah. Gonna be slow. " Uh, if it needs to be a full party, and they need to be doing the killing alone, and with a crossbow, then yeah, even if that was possible, with the given specs, the chances of someone having uploaded that are pretty low. That being said, crossbow is one of the better-performing weapons. Gemling isn't played much, as the ascendancy was just downright gutted after 0.1 (or was it after 0.2?) and mercs play mostly witch hunter or tactician. " IMO build diversity is relatively decent at the moment, compared to previous league for example, and compared to bad leagues on PoE1. It's ofc going to be something that I imagine GGG puts effort to improving. Keeping in mind, that we're still lacking 3 whole weapons and prolly a bunch of passive tree clusters and many ascendancies, broken builds are bound to still happen. Currently, the amount of play seen by the easy majority of ascendancies is within an order of magnitude from the most played one on HC and HCSSF. Wand/staff, sceptre, talisman, bow, quarterstaff, crossbow, one-handed mace, are all played, which leaves out only spear and two-handed mace with very few people playing them. People are running vines, spark, minions, comet, ed/contagion, shapeshift stuff, shield wall, ice strike, ice shot, gas grenade, etc. Some stuff isn't seeing basically any use. Boneshatter, pretty much all spear skills, fire spells, for example. And yeah, some of those things that are still played are not particularly great, while some things massively overperform at the moment. It's a problem to be sure, but I think it's a problem often exaggerated here, and at the end of it, you can play any of the weapons at the moment. Some are hard to get work on SSF, some not. The game however was never balanced for SSF, and it was added somewhat grudgingly after enough demand from specific streamers. In that sense, it's not surprising that some builds are hard to get running on SSF. E.g. boneshatter which is a bit underperforming on trade too is really tough on SSF. Dernière édition par tzaeru#0912, le 9 janv. 2026 à 08:22:19
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" Hahaha. Go kill boss with grenades then.... Hahhaha. Pathetic implementation of the supposed strong damage of a throwing explosion item. There are weapons that do 20x times more DPS. Why the f.. should i throw a grenade??? Waste of time. Grenade means ' Fire in the whole ' but here seems more sparklers that caress the Boss life. Every drop of grenade should have taken 1/8(in full party boss) at least of Boss life. Go throw grenades and tell me how many of them needed to kill him? Pathetic DPS in all meanings. |
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" Are we playing and watching the same game? You can just type poe2 grenades boss in YouTube and see a bunch of examples of grenades killing bosses with absolute ease. Here one of very many: https://youtube.com/shorts/D1tPKlNqZiA?si=cfGDslBegGvCSRU9 Dernière édition par KaosuRyoko#1633, le 9 janv. 2026 à 10:00:48
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" There's other skills that indeed kill bosses faster. If you prefer to maximize the boss kill times, then you need to play the skills best for that. Anyhow.. 20 seconds grenade Xesht kill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-sKhCgt1Xg 20 seconds grenade Arbiter kill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNUAo8wfvGU 20 seconds frost crossbow l80 map boss kill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP5VtmOdGJM All 3 from SSF. If those were trade league builds, they'd halve the kill times. Or more than halve. Tbh though, I wouldn't want to encourage people to always aim for 20 second and under boss kills. Should understand that most YouTube clips - above included - feature players who've a really good build and really good gear, even if they are playing SSF. If you don't want to, you don't have to decide that you can be only satisfied if you can replicate their kill times. You of course can do it, but I do think a lot of players who think it's what they want don't actually find the journey to it all that enjoyable. I completely get that the game is hard and that it is complex enough that it's very easy to miss how to make builds good and what kind of gear you should be on the look-out for. And it's fine to offer that as a criticism; if a lot of players don't understand the systems and fail to understand what gear is good, what isn't, what makes their build work, etc, then maybe GGG needs to do something to mitigate that. But making blanket claims like that crossbow can't kill bosses fast or that SSF is only about luck and so on, are not constructive criticism of the game and are not rooted in the reality of the game in its current stage of development. Dernière édition par tzaeru#0912, le 9 janv. 2026 à 10:08:42
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" It means they aquired everything top quality items becouse in 0.1.0 everything was easy dropable and market was full of top quality items in cheap prices. Go tell the tomorrow players stories from patch 0.1.0 and they will imidiately stop playing the game.... Why Devs won't delete all currency and items for a fresh restart is something that everyone can understand. Profit wins all the time!!! |
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