GGG put max cap on MOVEMENT SPEED and DPS. This is the only guaranteed solution for OP builds!!

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AverBeg7#1689 a écrit :

Ok but the OP is not asking for meaningful combat or slow paced gameplay.

He is asking for people to be hard capped, so he feels less bad about being carried.

He is asking for streamers he saw to be nerfed, because he feels left out.

Does this not seem just a bit unreasonable? And does it not seem unreasonable to turn this into a discussion about "meaningful gameplay" just because he put those words in a bold font in his post?

What is going on here.

No he is not asking a cap for feeling better that can't reach OP players. In fact the opposite. He said he is killing bosses in 8 seconds wich means it's from the side of OP build category.

Of what i understand is that nonexistent balance between classes ruined the equal treatment of reaching OP builds and thous there are OP players that complaining how easy the game is and weak players that complaining how difficult the game became playing with OP builds asking for stronger content.

To bring balance and meaningful combat to all classes, GGG should put a cap to DPS and MS and stop zooming once for ever.

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Baggos#7448 a écrit :

No he is not asking a cap for feeling better that can't reach OP players.

See here;

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bobsponge123#5749 a écrit :

👍 No more complains from weaker players.
👍 No more 3 sec Boss kill.
👍 No more words like "You stay out, I'll take care of the boss myself"
👍 No more scared players outside Boss room.

He is not saying that, at all. You are prescribing your beliefs onto a thread that doesn't even support them. Simply because he put

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bobsponge123#5749 a écrit :

'A MEANINGFUL COMBAT!'

It doesn't make it a discussion about it. The things he actually says, points to him being upset, because he compares himself to other players, while choosing to get carried, and it upsets him.

You latching onto it is suggesting you are arguing for similar reasons.

Stop comparing yourself to players who are better than you. They will always make more. Even if you nerf them into oblivion, even if you hard cap their characters, they will optimize again, and still be more efficient than you.

It is simply self-imposed FOMO. It has nothing to do with the actual balance or pacing of the game. If you have a complaint about your own builds progression, that is relevant. If you are comparing yourself to people who are more invested to you, that is nonsense.

If you spent the time theory crafting or researching builds, doing the right strats, and playing the game, you would reach similar heights as them, but that's not what you want to do. You want to just play and enjoy the game, right? So do that. But do not expect to be on the same level as people who basically make it their life at the start of the league

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comnom#5629 a écrit :

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AintCare#6513 a écrit :

All this thread is doing is inviting massive push back from the group that does not give a damn about 'meaningful combat'.

Truth. Finding balance is tricky. 65% movespeed? Too much. The slows mace-bros have to deal with? Also too much.

GGG has always been a hammer balancer. Much like blizzard though they may not appreciate the comparison. Let's do this: +1000 dmg. Too strong. Let's nerf it: -1100 dmg.

There are no guaranteed solutions. Personally I'd say, let's focus on why the whole server is only looking for 3 or 4 mods. Let's change mechanics so all those other mods have value. I'm a crazy person though.

We won't get there with all these all or nothing solutions though, that much I agree with.

It is a guaranteed solution wether people like it or not. The time that GGG decided to mix passive nodes from all classes, opened a huge gap between builds because there are hundreds combinations and would became million if game proceed to the final level by bringing all classes to playable conditions.

OP builds appeared from the lack of balance. Why TQ,Diablo,GD etc don't have these problems. Becouse there the classes has restricted and limited options. Of course I'm not support being Poe2 like them, but from them other hand Chaos combination that leads to OP builds should be stopped with one guaranteed way and this is by putting a cap.

All those fancy boys said that game is too easy for them...why then help them understand a little what toughness in a meaningful combat means..???

what a stupid post.

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Lina#9615 a écrit :

Chaos combination that leads to OP builds should be stopped with one guaranteed way and this is by putting a cap.

I do not understand how this post has convinced you that a cap is necessary. It is someone just comparing themselves to more invested players. It is someone upset that they can't reach heights they never even deigned to reach.

It is truly baffling to me.

The fact this has become a discussion for all the same players who want "engaging combat" to now "hard cap builds" just really speaks to where they are coming from in reality. They just feel left out because they can't reach the heights they see others get to.

The reason you don't reach the heights, is because you don't put in the same work. That simple.

Hardcoded limits is not what PoE about.
Though i think speed and aoe(additional projectiles) should be way more "expensive" stats, due to their power in endgame.

First, let GGG, these babies who can only play Word Puzzle, play POE2 live.

While I don't agree with the proposed solutions, I mirror the sentiment behind them... it's really sad to see a game with huge potential turning into a gambling simulator with colors and explosions filling the screen and one shotting bosses left and right.

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JODYHiGHR0LLER#6171 a écrit :

what a stupid post.

Yea, becouse doesn't fit to your needs or thoughts. Let me tell you what i want to see... To see Poe2 became more zooming than Poe1!!! Yea killing bosses in 3 sec is way to boring, GGG need lowering the times to 0,5 sec abd you can sit in your chair playing with one hand while with the other eating, heading in TV for some show...

"And the Show must go on"

Pathetic thoughts...

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IonSugeRau1#1069 a écrit :

While I don't agree with the proposed solutions, I mirror the sentiment behind them... it's really sad to see a game with huge potential turning into a gambling simulator with colors and explosions filling the screen and one shotting bosses left and right.

Everyone likes zooming. Tell me one that don't like sit in chair relaxed and press one button while mass pack of monsters vanishing with a big explosion effect. In fact why not recommend GGG to give us back Herald skills proc??? It was fitted better to zooming style.

Just no. +1000 I strongly recommend this chaos to be stopped. GGG make all classes be powerful or put a cap because this game should mented to be something different. Enough is Enough.