Is PoE 2 even trying to widen its target?

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lupasvasile#5385 a écrit :

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Oinkaments#6390 a écrit :

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BlackXIV#0308 a écrit :

Take a page from Last Epoch's book, maybe?

Fuck no. Last Epoch is absolute gutter trash, you can't even trade in that game.
LE is a dead game and is vastly inferior to POE 2.

If your goal is to play a market simulatorr, yes LE is trash

But as an offline single player SSF game it's god tier.

No one cares about t... LE.

They're about to release their update 0.3.1 and you're crying as if the world were ending.
There's still 0.3.2
0.4
0.5
0.6
0.7
0.8
0.9
1.0

Just wait.

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DistributedAutomaton#5739 a écrit :

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BlackXIV#0308 a écrit :

Take a page from Last Epoch's book, maybe?

GGG, please don't. I don't play that game because it is trivial.

PoE 1 and 2 is also trivial.

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bewilder2#0356 a écrit :

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DistributedAutomaton#5739 a écrit :

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BlackXIV#0308 a écrit :

Take a page from Last Epoch's book, maybe?

GGG, please don't. I don't play that game because it is trivial.

PoE 1 and 2 is also trivial.

you can leave. go and play 4k player LE.

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iliathaX#7359 a écrit :

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BlackXIV#0308 a écrit :

accessible to normal human beings

What does that mean to you?
What are "normal" human beings?

It's an open invitation for anyone who identifies as a normal human being, who's had any grievance with the game, to chime in.

He says to himself, "I'm a normal human being and I don't understand this thing. It needs to be simplified."

But in his post he claims that there are over 300 types of currency with no in-game explanations of their functions. The ability to read and understand, for example:

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Orb of Augmentation
Augments a Magic item with a new random modifier

Right click this item then left click a magic item to apply it. Magic items can have up to two random modifiers.
Shift click to unstack.

...should be possible for a "normal human being".

There are people who don't want things to appeal to the normal, including the creators of this game.

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Darosius#3984 a écrit :

They're about to release their update 0.3.1 and you're crying as if the world were ending.
There's still 0.3.2
0.4
0.5
0.6
0.7
0.8
0.9
1.0

Just wait.

Not crying, just voicing my discontent.
I've been here since Aug 11, 2011. There are patterns, very obvious patterns.....it's easy to see where this is going. Nothing is set in stone ofc, but for now the future is clear....and it's POE 1.......a game that is there, works perfectly fine, and it didn't need a clone.

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Darosius#3984 a écrit :

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They're about to release their update 0.3.1 and you're crying as if the world were ending.
There's still 0.3.2
0.4
0.5
0.6
0.7
0.8
0.9
1.0

Just wait.

You don't know how the versioning works right?
They can both go straight from 0.4.0 to 1.0 or from 0.9 to 0.10 and 0.11 etc.
Only devs know how much content is done, they could have already completed all the weapons and act5-6, and just need balance/polish them, or may be they need another 3 years to do so...

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Darosius#3984 a écrit :

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DistributedAutomaton#5739 a écrit :

GGG, please don't. I don't play that game because it is trivial.

PoE 1 and 2 is also trivial.

you can leave. go and play 4k player LE.

No, you leave. You don't get to tell me to leave bot.

If GGG listened to these type of posts, they would widen they player base close to LE numbers.

Imagine asking a respectable company that makes the best game in the genre, to follow the step of a failing/dead version of this genre.

screeches GoD tIeR

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lupasvasile#5385 a écrit :

God, I hate it when people pull up player numbers. It's symptom of the live service cancer.
People don't need to play games all dayespecially not the same one over and over like a hamster on crack.

hehe....you need to understand the numbers first.

"24 hour peak" means that, in the span of an entire day ONLY 5000 people logged on simultaneously. That is really and truly pathetic. Even PoE 1 has better numbers than that and its 1) a niche game that already caters to a small audience and 2) at the very tail end of a league, when even the most die-hard fans are not playing anymore.

The ONLY objective measure of a game's "success" is player numbers. It is objective because it takes into account ALL variables possible, and self-corrects for them. Especially looking at averages over a long period of time.

Last Epoch numbers:
1) 24 hr peak of only 5k, with a 24hour peak hardly ever rising above 10k for the entire month of September means it has a PITIFUL audience in this gamespace.

2) Average players per month has never exceeded 80k, a value which it ONLY hit the month that it was full released to the public. Every successive month has hardly even broken 5k. AVERAGE players across an ENTIRE MONTH. That translates to a MASSIVE rolloff of people getting bored or disliking the game. And the fact that it has ultimately failed to attract even a small sliver of that initial 80k release value is telling.


To write off player data because you "hate when people pull them up" is simply denying the reality of the game outside of your own house. By all means, enjoy it: no one can or should judge you for that. But as a measure of "success", GGG would do well to avoid copying it in almost every way possible because it has been objectively proven to fail already.

You people are [Removed by Support] and hung up on the weirdest things. Gaming is a hobby, designed to be enjoyed whenever one feels like it. If success means only that a game is played 24/7 by all of the people...then it failed as a game.