Something I just realized and I think is important. HEAR ME DEVS.

Scouring will be more useful than alteration (for now)

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rhorains#6760 a écrit :

where does this talk of vendors supplying useful gear come from. I check vendors every level up and the most useful thing I'm finding is a plain white base to roll for a chance of the mod I need

maybe I'm being too picky, I tend to sell something if it either

a) rolls a low-tier modifier (like +life but in the 7-15 range, why can't we have an orb that gives a reroll of this modifier + chance to upgrade its tier)

b) rolls some modifier I do not want at all, like light radius, or mana, or spell damage, etc, not relevant to my build so I don't continue trying to craft on this base

most of my gear has come from finally getting lucky with a drop or a roll on a white base, not direct from vendor. vendor typically has only 5-8 items relevant to my build at all, and pretty much never what I'm looking for with the modifiers.

Depends on what stage of the campaign we're talking about. Getting past Act 3 just needs one good affix per blue item, plus some artificier orbs and ring swaps. Vendors will often have a T5 mod floating around, especially if you're willing to bend your build while levelling.

Act 2 Cruel or beyond it's reasonable to want to gear up for maps, i.e. getting more resists as well as life on gear, multiple damage mods on weapons, etc. Just 2 good mods was good enough for non-weapon gear. The one time I crafted my weapon during the campaign was in Act 3 Cruel with my first character and I've bought various weapons for any future characters I may level this league. Heck, one level up after I did that craft, the vendors showed me a decent weapon upgrade but that's RNG.

Hmm, there definitely is the appeal of just having more crafting options once you're in maps. I miss the PoE 1 Harvest/Necropolis league crafting during levelling: "you can use this to craft but it only works on low iLvl things". Or heck, Guff style 'crafting' from PoE 1 Syndicate content. The problem with the orbs is that you want to save them up since the same currency works with endgame items.

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Sarke#5416 a écrit :

Actually... Now that I think about it... Maybe a shop where u could exchange gold for currency would actually b interesting.

I would 100% prefear if u could just get standard orbs from vendours and u were forced to go to maps looking for a base u like and craft it yourself from 0 everytime.

Hmm, certainly I can get behind that for Transmutes, Augments, Regals, Exalts.

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Sarke#5416 a écrit :

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Urza_Mechwalker#7393 a écrit :

aaa anope currency is very improtant int he campaign to gamble. I pick up everythign I can.

So ur gameplay is... pick up all, identify it, sell it for gold and gamble...?

But thats is really slow. U must spend most of ur time taking portals to town... Arent u?

Not even close. I need to do it twice per area usually durign campaign. Also no my gameplay is nto that.. my gameplay is about FIGHTIGNmosnters.. loot is NOT the objective.. loot are means to an end. And that is why I find endgame utterly boring.. it is there only for loot to use on itself..

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kosmo_blacksmith#5449 a écrit :

Thats why people keep asking for a crafting bench.
For something like the cpt.crimson set in d3.
Better would be something actual balanced that even works for the endgame. Like a crafting bench.
Cpt.crimson is just another meta build. So no solution in my mind.

Also the crafting must be available in campaign, not only for endgame like recombinator is.

Crafting bench should be the base of all crafting.. and other systems FEED into it making it work better. So craftign bench should be there from act 1 onwards.. and slowly gain more functionalities.

Many stuff going on but I think that a well designed trade is well protected about inflation.
This one is not cos orbs are never used at the same rate them are collected.

At lest in POE 1 with the meta mods from the bench (affixes-suffixes) people were getting rid of some divines.

But theres no use for divine at all in this Poe.
Also theres not much to do with the rest of the currency since crafting is underperforming over gambling and there are also not many interesting mods...

The whole trade system right now is not well designed.

As a SSF player, I pick up all blue and yellow.
Because blue could have a good base to craft around, and I can sell it for gold to gamble.

I could easily say, lvl 82 amazon, a third of my stuff is from a blue that I upgrade to a yellow one with 6 affixes.

If you feel it useless, it dosnt mean it is useless cause the way you play the game is not the only way to play it !!!

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Legoury#0138 a écrit :

As a SSF player, I pick up all blue and yellow.
Because blue could have a good base to craft around, and I can sell it for gold to gamble.

I could easily say, lvl 82 amazon, a third of my stuff is from a blue that I upgrade to a yellow one with 6 affixes.

If you feel it useless, it dosnt mean it is useless cause the way you play the game is not the only way to play it !!!

1st thing u are probably a lighneen spear amazon. Wich mean u are probably playing the only broken build that is avivable right now.
So starting with that, u and I are not playing the same game.

2nd In POE I all my characters have 100% of their gear with some sort of crafting on it. Even The unique items have 30% quality, or are corrupted or whatever.
Most of my rare stuff there is handcrafted using diferent mecanics, from delve to curse on hit, to alva for double corruption, to graveyard crafting, to harvest, some have crucible trees, some conqueror afixxes... I mean...

This crafting we have in poe 2 right now is purely a joke.

Im fine if u play the game picking every single item u find from the ground. To me thats a boring way to waste my time.
From my point of view, is far more fun to power farm currency actually playing the game and then, when u have tons of currency, get involved in a long term crafting proyect that really worth the effort.

But if u really prefear to spend ur time taking portals to see if that item u picked have a max tier of whatever.
To then upgrade it to pure exalted RNG.
Or maybe with some tricks now like fraturing -> chaos spam before it...
Or using that 0,9% chance to recombinate...
(however u will end praying RNG gods, cause thats max level of crafting right now and u have pretty much 3% control over it...)

Or even if ur strategy is selling for gold to straight up RNG gamble...

Doesent really matter the way u choose to play it, cause all of it is pretty much boring and not rewarding at all since the most u gonna get from it is a +X to whatever skill, some spirit, life, and 3 resist.

And if u think thats something to b proud of, let me tell u, is not.
SSF doesent prove any knoledge of the game these days.
Only make the game more tedious.

So dont shout at me. To think of 82 levels playing that way just make me think in how many hours u have spent doing that repetitive stuff just to look at shit items over and over again.

Thats just my honest answer. Dont take it as offensive.

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Rhini01#3338 a écrit :

It's fast.
It takes one click while you are runing to next group of mobs. Fast identify and then, just skim-check if it's starts that might be worh to try to turn into something. If it's not then it's fast turn into currency. On the way back I recharge my rarity talisman for the next elite I go after. Rinse and repeat. And no, I don't find it boring at all but at same time I am not categorising it as fun either, is just an automatic thing I do and have been doing in various games in my 30 years of gaming.
Keep in mind I am not participating in trading as I absolutely loath how it's being handled and I do not apreciate the forced socialisation that comes with it. I consider utter waste of time having to go out of game, brows for item, whisper and wait, get into party, teleport to hideout, again a series of interactions to go through to get that item you want/need or whatever or oposite, have items taking your storage slots, waiting and responding to it and blah blah blah. Now thats an utter waste of time.

Anyhow, people have different playstiles that are ok for them. Pretty much like you might enjoy a movie like Titanic while I would consider it waste of time and rather go and watch the whole Alien franchise. xD

Ok. Thats a nice way to say things.

I find all that proces tedious even if u automated the whole thing, is not how I would like to be spending my time with...
Im used to farm farm farm kill kill kill. Pick only really rare stuff from the ground, some bases maybe and tons of currency.

And then, Id rather prefear spending 1 hour looking at poedb, analizing the most efficient way to craft something, or wich ones are the most usefull affixes for my character from the whole catalog than begging to RNG for the perfect drop by looking into blues, to try luck then praying with regals exalted/chaos for the perfect mods.

Luckily for us there r not that many afixes yet, so we can still pray to Rng. But thats not a system that would last much if u pretend to create a service game like POE.

I really hope them turn their eyes back to POE 1 to get some crafting inspiration.
Cos as I said. that were the most funny part for me and is completly gone.

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Sarke#5416 a écrit :

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From my point of view, is far more fun to power farm currency actually playing the game and then, when u have tons of currency, get involved in a long term crafting proyect that really worth the effort.

I hated this from PoE1 when you need 3000 alt to start crafting something good.

If you like it so much, you can play PoE1 but dont impose to others a change in another game.

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Legoury#0138 a écrit :

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Sarke#5416 a écrit :

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From my point of view, is far more fun to power farm currency actually playing the game and then, when u have tons of currency, get involved in a long term crafting proyect that really worth the effort.

I hated this from PoE1 when you need 3000 alt to start crafting something good.

If you like it so much, you can play PoE1 but dont impose to others a change in another game.

Im not imposing anything on anyone.

Im just giving my feedback. And I have solid arguments for what I think.
U only said u hated that from POE1 but didnt say a word about why did u.

Elaborate.