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They will have all the time in the world to balance content once they finished adding content.
So after release. Until then, why don't you play a monk ?
The "did you get good/another class/build"-beatings will continue until morale improves.
All this feels very "do you guys not have phones?" from the playerbase and GGG.
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Posté parHashBob#0163le 6 févr. 2025 13:39:46
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What is "proven to be right"?
You mean the system that sustains 50.000 online players in POE1?
Darling, you need better arguments.
With this "system" they not only sustained a player base, the player base increased from league to league.
Was the player base smaller? Yes. Was this "system" the reason for it? No.
PoE1 is niche, way harder to get in, more complex on every level and A OVER 10 YEAR OLD GAME.
Ppl don't stopped playing PoE because the "system" (patching) wasn't their cup of tea... the game was "too hard". There is a reason why most ppl left when they encountered "Brutus" (Act 1 Boss).
And they will continue to sustain the same people. Im completely new and millions at the start were completely new to the game and genre. I'm telling you it's a trash system that can only sustain a minority of gamers. It is simply not good enough for the masses. They clearly need new players or this game wouldn't exist. The old models are garbage this is why people didn't even know peo1 existed cause it wasn't good enough for the masses. We will be gone soon anyway if it doesn't change.
Deffend it all you want, the player base will tank if you get your way and alot of old players will probably go back to poe1.
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Dernière édition par JakkerONAIR#4902, le 6 févr. 2025 13:59:50
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And they will continue to sustain the same people. Im completely new and millions at the start were completely new to the game and genre. I'm telling you it's a trash system that can only sustain a minority of gamers. It is simply not good enough for the masses. They clearly need new players or this game wouldn't exist. The old models are garbage this is why people didn't even know peo1 existed cause it wasn't good enough for the masses. We will be gone soon anyway if it doesn't change.
Deffend it all you want, the player base will tank if you get your way and alot of old players will probably go back to poe1.
All you say is a baseless assumption.
And it's kinda funny that you've said what you said...
PoE1 wasn't good enough for the masses? No, the masses weren't good enough for PoE1. That's called "niche".
They don't change a system because you and some new player think it's garbage. Hell, you probably can't even comprehend WHY this system is used over constant changes.
I guess you think the constant "changes" (nerfs) in Diablo 4 were a good thing.
Dernière édition par JakkerONAIR#4902, le 6 févr. 2025 13:59:29
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Slow and mediocre updates.
I abandoned Warrior, he's horrible. I did a Gemling attribute stacker, I completed all the content so easily that it was boring. I kill everything with one shot, or die to the boss with one shot.
This is the summary of the game: One shot builds, kill or die in a few seconds. It's the dirtiest thing in the game, you just skip the mechanics to avoid dying. How do you do this? With one shot builds. Completely unbalanced classes and skills, maps are rubbish and boring.
The market is shit, the crafts are shit, the drops are shit, most of the uniques are shit, BOT, RMT, duplicate items.
I know that several white paladins will come to defend GGG, unpaid employees. You can take your underwear over your head, this game is shit.
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Posté parbillzao#1256le 6 févr. 2025 14:00:22
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And they will continue to sustain the same people. Im completely new and millions at the start were completely new to the game and genre. I'm telling you it's a trash system that can only sustain a minority of gamers. It is simply not good enough for the masses. They clearly need new players or this game wouldn't exist. The old models are garbage this is why people didn't even know peo1 existed cause it wasn't good enough for the masses. We will be gone soon anyway if it doesn't change.
Deffend it all you want, the player base will tank if you get your way and alot of old players will probably go back to poe1.
All you say is a baseless assumption.
And it's kinda funny that you've said what you said...
PoE1 wasn't good enough for the masses? No, the masses weren't good enough for PoE1. That's called "niche".
They don't change a system because you and some new player think it's garbage. Hell, you probably can't even comprehend WHY this system is used over constant changes.
I guess you think the constant "changes" (nerfs) in Diablo 4 were a good thing.
Have you listened to them. Its funny your saying this.
This game is supposed to be different and it has serious issues which the developers have openly stated them selves. Your view does not even allign with ggg.
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Have you listened to them. Its funny your saying this.
This game is supposed to be different and it has serious issues which the developers have openly stated them selves. Your view does not even allign with ggg.
What does not align?
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Slow and mediocre updates.
I abandoned Warrior, he's horrible. I did a Gemling attribute stacker, I completed all the content so easily that it was boring. I kill everything with one shot, or die to the boss with one shot.
This is the summary of the game: One shot builds, kill or die in a few seconds. It's the dirtiest thing in the game, you just skip the mechanics to avoid dying. How do you do this? With one shot builds. Completely unbalanced classes and skills, maps are rubbish and boring.
The market is shit, the crafts are shit, the drops are shit, most of the uniques are shit, BOT, RMT, duplicate items.
I know that several white paladins will come to defend GGG, unpaid employees. You can take your underwear over your head, this game is shit.
Then don't play it.
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This thread is full of game designers.
If game design is so easy that random people on the forum have solved it, why do big companies keep making bad games?
All they have to do is take advice from their players and make a perfect game! So simple!
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On a serious note, for those who are interested in the topic, go watch Chris Wilson's talk at GDC 2019. He explains there that GGG experimented a lot with patch frequency and size in POE's early days and found a sweet spot that lets them grow their playerbase instead of losing it. It's an interesting talk, I recommend it.
Dernière édition par ConcreteMittens#4695, le 6 févr. 2025 14:37:29
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This thread is full of game designers.
If game design is so easy that random people on the forum have solved it, why do big companies keep making bad games?
All they have to do is take advice from their players and make a perfect game! So simple!
/s
On a serious note, for those who are interested in the topic, go watch Chris Wilson's talk at GDC 2019. He explains there that GGG experimented a lot with patch frequency and size in POE's early days and found a sweet spot that lets them grow their playerbase instead of losing it. It's an interesting talk, I recommend it.
To be fair, I'd still love to see them be a bit more experimental during EA. It's the perfect time to be so as there is a "it's just beta you pay for" mentality among I imagine most people playing right now. They should be more willing to make bigger changes because we have barely half the classes and even what we have are missing an ascendancy class and like 1/3 of the planned release end game.
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