A broad P2W definition in law would paint premium stash tabs P2W

I think I have been clear enough for you to find your own examples. If it affects gameplay and you pay with real money, it's p2w. What else do you need to know?

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Albinosaurus a écrit :

I think I have been clear enough for you to find your own examples. If it affects gameplay and you pay with real money, it's p2w. What else do you need to know?

I guess nevermind? You want me to provide examples to support your point of view?

And then answer with the most vague explanation ever that any gameplay you pay with real money is p2w.

By that definition paying $59.99 for any game is P2W. Anyways you are entitled to your opinion, but wow its pretty hollow and unconventional.

No point belaboring it. I will just assume you mean every game is P2W because I cannot even think of a game without dlc, mtx, cosmetics, loot boxes, or premium currency.

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DarthSki44 a écrit :

I mean wow. Winning in single player? Really? (Heres a tip, you always win, becuase no one else literally can)

Yawn. Arguing about winning is standard for the white knights because they have no real logical argument. The problem here is only that the GGG brown-nosers dislike the word and therefore wants to pretend that stash tabs aren't. The "winning" argument is an insult to anyone with even a peanut sized brain. At best.

DP

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DarthSki44 a écrit :

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Albinosaurus a écrit :

I think I have been clear enough for you to find your own examples. If it affects gameplay and you pay with real money, it's p2w. What else do you need to know?

I guess nevermind? You want me to provide examples to support your point of view?

And then answer with the most vague explanation ever that any gameplay you pay with real money is p2w.

By that definition paying $59.99 for any game is P2W. Anyways you are entitled to your opinion, but wow its pretty hollow and unconventional.

No point belaboring it. I will just assume you mean every game is P2W because I cannot even think of a game without dlc, mtx, cosmetics, loot boxes, or premium currency.

my man, P2W refers to paid advantage. you can't deny that stash tabs offer a considerable advantage for making currency faster than if you just tried to make do with the 4 basic stash tabs. and then of course there's the convenience factor of not having to waste time playing tetris with your currency/maps/div cards/essences and the immense stash space saved from having their own tabs.

I understand why GGG monetizes stash tabs the way they do and don't ask them to change it,i just want people to understand that stash tabs do indeed offer a very big advantage, since it's frustrating seeing people always say the same old "duuuh but waht do u win XDD?" without taking into consideration why they are seen as P2W to the players who are not fortunate enough to have 20+ tabs.

also, in SSF being able to hoard items for future characters is yet another big advantage of stash tabs

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DarthSki44 a écrit :

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Albinosaurus a écrit :

I think I have been clear enough for you to find your own examples. If it affects gameplay and you pay with real money, it's p2w. What else do you need to know?

I guess nevermind? You want me to provide examples to support your point of view?

And then answer with the most vague explanation ever that any gameplay you pay with real money is p2w.

By that definition paying $59.99 for any game is P2W. Anyways you are entitled to your opinion, but wow its pretty hollow and unconventional.

No point belaboring it. I will just assume you mean every game is P2W because I cannot even think of a game without dlc, mtx, cosmetics, loot boxes, or premium currency.

See, you say something dumb like this and wonder why I didn't bother to do your homework for you. Doesn't make sense, ya? Instead of trying to make a valid counter-point, you misrepresent what I said and then try to beat up that misrepresentation (aka "straw man fallacy").

The definition I gave is the same one that anyone who played games pre-Xbox era would be familiar with, because games never had that shit in them before that. The closest thing that existed were expansions, but those were fully developed, polished, welcome additions to the game that were often worthy additions to the game instead of just some cash-grab afterthought. There's nothing "hollow" or "unconventional" about it. I'm sorry you missed that wonderful era of gaming and have to suffer with this mess, but that doesn't make you qualified to debate a very standard definition with excuses and obfuscation.

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Albinosaurus a écrit :

I think I have been clear enough for you to find your own examples. If it affects gameplay and you pay with real money, it's p2w. What else do you need to know?

What a useless definition.

I guess we all better turn in all our MTX, guys. Stash tabs, character slots, every cosmetic microtransaction we've ever obtained because looking the way you'd like to look and being happier with your character absolutely affects gameplay, and that means it's PEE TWO DUBBLEYOO.

Seriously. There's a growing trend amongst many gamers out there which considers the idea that cosmetics are a freebie for game companies and anybody is allowed to enact any monetization scheme they want so long as it's "only for cosmetics" is incorrect. For a lot of players, cosmetics absolutely affect gameplay. Being able to live up to their chosen aesthetic/style, not looking like a reject bin frump in a game like Path where basic equipment skins all look mostly awful and never match - it's an important element of gameplay.

Which, according to Albino, means it's PEE TWO DUBBLEYOO and we should all feel absolutely ashamed of ourselves. Time to pack it in, everybody. Turn in everything you've ever bought, stop using any of your MTX skins or anything but four basic stash tabs, delete any characters over 24. Can't be having that PEE TWO DUBBLEYOO stain on your souls.

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1453R a écrit :

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Albinosaurus a écrit :

I think I have been clear enough for you to find your own examples. If it affects gameplay and you pay with real money, it's p2w. What else do you need to know?

What a useless definition.

I guess we all better turn in all our MTX, guys. Stash tabs, character slots, every cosmetic microtransaction we've ever obtained because looking the way you'd like to look and being happier with your character absolutely affects gameplay, and that means it's PEE TWO DUBBLEYOO.

Are you really saying you can't tell the difference between gameplay and cosmetics? And you're trying to use that to criticize a very normal definition? Come on, dude. That's just dishonest and you know it.

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1453R a écrit :

?????????

bruh what

no one says or thinks comestics are P2W and if there really are people who think like that then they are even more dumb than your comment

Exactly. Nobody says cosmetics affect gameplay--because they don't. They don't increase drop rates, stash space, damage output, player durability, etc. He basically just committed the same logical fallacy, but in a different form, that Darthski44 did.