Dx11 is unplayable AND looks worse.

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Fallen_Enigma a écrit :

I paid into a game that I COULD play.

You payed to support a free to pay game, you never paid to have the right to play anything, just pointing this out.


Now, are you sure that you have tried everything that was possible to run PoE properly ?
Have you asked in the gameplay help section of the forum ?
Have you had any particular bug to report since you've tried DX11 ?


PS : Skyrim has not been a reference for powerful computers for a long time, I don't think that Diablo III is either to be honest.

Diablo 3 is the most similiar game to PoE there is.. PoE is based off of Diablo 2...

And I didn't "pay to support a free to play game"...
PoE is hardly F2P, you cannot get very far without buying stash tabs.
Try getting anywhere without a currency tab.
I paid to play.
If you play without buying tabs, either trade or ssf, you're drastically hindered in your ability to play.

I paid for the right to use my stash tabs, at the time of purchase the game was 100% playable.
PoE changed and made it unplayable. That's not an issue on my end, it's an issue on GGG's end.

I paid for a working game, and now I'm left with something unusable.

Notice how its paid, not donated.

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and yes, obviously I've tried everything practical.
I'm aware of my hardware limitations, and the limitations of PoE's spaghetti code.

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PS : Skyrim has not been a reference for powerful computers for a long time, I don't think that Diablo III is either to be honest.

I'm not comparing how powerful computers are. I'm comparing games. I'm saying Diablo 3 is basically PoE, but with even more density, yet still runs better. MUCH better.

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MrsDeath_ a écrit :

you dont have to buy stash tabs. you can use forum as premium stash.
you can chargeback anytime you want.

I use to play without any purchased stash tabs. I had an insane amount of characters used for storing items.
Think about how much space 100c, 250 chromes, 500 jewellers, 120 fusings etc etc spaces holds up.
Your stash tabs would instantly fill. And so much time would be wasted managing your 4 stash tabs.
It is not practical.
You don't have enough space for currency, maps, delve fossils, div cards, essences, etc etc let alone a tab for selling things on the forums.

And that's another thing, using the forums is a huge sink in time, especially piled ontop of managing 4 tabs.

It's not practical, and you know it.

"you can chargeback anytime you want"
Are you sure about this?
If this is true, I wouldn't mind.
By the looks of GGG, they're way to stubborn to even make this game playable again. Wouldn't mind a refund.

You cant even joke around these mods....

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Fallen_enigma a écrit :

PoE is hardly F2P, you cannot get very far without buying stash tabs.

Yes you can.
Not that it matters, you agreed to just pay for support/mtxes when you spent your money.
Why you think you spent your money does not matter, the legal terms are all that matter regarding what you 'deserve' from spending money on the game.

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Fallen_enigma a écrit :

PoE changed and made it unplayable. That's not an issue on my end, it's an issue on GGG's end.

It could make some sense if everybody else was in the same situation than you are.
It does not seem to be the case.

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Fallen_enigma a écrit :

and yes, obviously I've tried everything practical.

Can you link the forum thread that you created in the help section ?

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Fallen_enigma a écrit :

I'm not comparing how powerful computers are. I'm comparing games. I'm saying Diablo 3 is basically PoE, but with even more density, yet still runs better. MUCH better.

Diablo 3 has been made from scratch by a company owning billions of dollars to begin with, and has been pretty much abandonned from my understanding ( I could be wrong though, I don't care about D3 at all ).

PoE has been built in a garage at the very start, and has been improved / updated / upgraded over the years.

The comparison wasn't even meaningful in 2013, it's even less now.
And the comparison with Skyrim is also pointless, as Skyrim is an old game already, that is different from PoE in many, many ways on top of that.

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PoE has been developed on non-stop since pre-October 2013.
It has hundreds of full time employees and is owned by one of the biggest, if not the biggest, gaming company in the world.
If anything, it should be better than Diablo 3 now (in terms of graphics and performance). But it isn't.
You can't slap "started in a garage" because that's irrelevant to what PoE is today. It's a HUGE company with MANY developers, with basically infinite pockets of wealth now.

Oh you want me to link threads I've posted/created regarding performance? Sure:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2453169
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2452569
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2453212
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2215059
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2257295
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2319193
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2319549
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2089358
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2204808
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1966835
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1934184
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2155155
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2154284
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2157959
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2152739


Not all are regarding to Directx11, but I'm constantly on the forums for performance and changes to graphic settings.

Trust me mate, been doing this for a long time.
There's no quick and simple fix, Directx9 with certain settings (requiring editing the production_Config) is essential for myself and others to play.
100% there's no button or switch I can flick to make Directx11 be amazing.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2089358

feel free to read the latest posts of that thread^

What are your computer specifications?
It sucks that some players struggle with dx11. It was probably bound to happen though. Some older computers don't cope well with dx11 in my experience.

I remember that i also used to have better fps with dx9 with my older pc.
Did you try updating chipset, graphics, sound drivers?

Try turning down the graphics preset to lowest in your graphics card's settings. Both Amd and Nvidia can do this.

You could also try turning off v-sync if that is on. Did the minimum frame rate setting in game do nothing to help? Don't set it too high.

Since the last patch the game looks stunningly better on my pc.
I don't know what they did exactly, but it works wonders for my enjoyment of the game.
It doesn't hog down my cpu or gpu anymore, the graphics in general and scene illumination look much more crisp and defined.
I don't use dynamic resolution, AA or postprocessing.
My PC hasn't changed in months so it must be something they did on their end.

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Fallen_Enigma a écrit :

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I haven't checked all the threads but ... you have been ranting quite a bit without giving your computer specs a single time ?
Or your in game settings ?

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Fallen_Enigma a écrit :

If anything, it should be better than Diablo 3 now (in terms of graphics and performance). But it isn't.
You can't slap "started in a garage" because that's irrelevant to what PoE is today. It's a HUGE company with MANY developers, with basically infinite pockets of wealth now.

No it should not necessarily, you just don't rebuild the whole engine of PoE in a year without significant risks.
There are things that GGG wanted that D3 does not have also, I'm not sure if it impact graphics but it does impact (or at least did) performances.

It's not because your company grows that all the system and softwares become instantly much better, it's far from being that simple.
And as I said, GGG keeps adding and adding content, are Blizzard doing the same for D3 ?

GGG is not targeting people who have a 10 years old computer setup, and why should they ? Most people have correct computers (mine has 7 years, I added an okay graphic card maybe 3 years ago and I can run PoE quite smoothly), and limiting themselves for a very small fraction of the player base that is not very likely to spend money on the game to begin with seems like a quite horrible decision to me.


edit : just to clarify, I also think that GGG could optimize stuff more and spend more time on it rather than putting shiny effects everywhere that clutter the screen like crazy, but saying that PoE should be more optimized than D3 ... is another story.

GGG doesn't care about performance. It took an xbox release to get basic nobrainer optimizations. Without xbox, we would still be stuck in 2016.

pc specs?