can we please stop the power creep, already? (or better - reverse it)

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andreicde a écrit :

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grepman a écrit :

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Azarhiel a écrit :

Where someone finds the game easy, some will find it hard. I stand in the middle. I don't want an easy game, but i don't want it to catter to hardcore only players that spend 10 hours a day playing PoE.

2 questions for you

do you think any game should be catered " to hardcore only players that spend 10 hours a day playing PoE." ?

if so, why cant it be poe that started as such game ?

That would only apply to single player games. Games catering only to ''hardcore players spending 10 hours a day '' online based would die fast. Small pop, not enough revenue.

I didnt ask you about profit or long term future of such games.

I asked you in general.

Im sure books about algebraic topology or nuclear physics dont sell like hot cakes, but yet they are still being printed.

whats so different about games that make them mandatory accessible to anyone ?

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Fruz a écrit :

By the way, anybody noticed how in the trailer, Chris Wilson didn't try to sell the league with cool and immersive stuff like "you will discover fragmented items that can improve your build in new ways", or "you will be able to discover some secrets long forgotten to customize your character" or something like that ....

no ....

"Containing dangerous bosses and valuable rewards".

Let's openly admit that we throw players carrots instead of just trying to make the game interesting T__T.




<=> "Hey this league is cool, because it has even more power creep"



( I guess it wasn't the first time, but still ... come on :S )

I stopped watching GGGs videos a long time ago. around the time chris went back and openly shat on the games own core fanbase talking about watching netflix when you kill trash

he was ultiimately right about business picking up when game went into that direction, but that wasnt the initial direction. so fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me.

I dont expect anything else than catering to 'reward NOW' crowd. GGG used to say level 100s shouldnt be attainable and content should be a long grind. shaper kills are taking 15 hrs now

at least syndicate was a fun challenging league before the nerf. they still had to insert some offsetting shit like pure breachstones, on some 'you cant only have rippy shit you have to have crazy xp reward' damage control.

I find it funny that some oldtimers completely forgot the state of the game back in beta.
And it was - go ele prolif ignite or stay forever in feldshir(docks). Trap-mined ele-prolif PB fireball oneshoted everething in the game with a single button push and it was like for 3 years? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9mZLeayvcg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvd9tmoCJUo .

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Ptirodaktill a écrit :

I find it funny that some oldtimers completely forgot the state of the game back in beta.
And it was - go ele prolif ignite or stay forever in feldshir(docks). Trap-mined ele-prolif PB fireball oneshoted everething in the game with a single button push and it was like for 3 years? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9mZLeayvcg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvd9tmoCJUo .

- At least 3 years ago they were manually casting their curses.
- posting a ghudda build on the 2nd video, fucking ghudda

Didn't play back then, but this looks slow for today's standards. I don't think the problem most people mentioned here, is just that some builds need nerfing, but the mentality in general behind class/skill changes.

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Ptirodaktill a écrit :

I find it funny that some oldtimers completely forgot the state of the game back in beta.
And it was - go ele prolif ignite or stay forever in feldshir(docks). Trap-mined ele-prolif PB fireball oneshoted everething in the game with a single button push and it was like for 3 years? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9mZLeayvcg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvd9tmoCJUo .

You say 1 shotting, but I see mobs health bars at least draining.

In addition to this, they are self casting a curse on every pack and throwing a trap which kills a single pack (not the whole screen).

The player in the clip is actually playing the game, rather than running past dying/dead packs.

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- At least 3 years ago they were manually casting their curses.

And picked items from the ground for chaos recipe.

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Fruz a écrit :

By the way, anybody noticed how in the trailer, Chris Wilson didn't try to sell the league with cool and immersive stuff like "you will discover fragmented items that can improve your build in new ways", or "you will be able to discover some secrets long forgotten to customize your character" or something like that ....

no ....

"Containing dangerous bosses and valuable rewards".

Let's openly admit that we throw players carrots instead of just trying to make the game interesting T__T.




<=> "Hey this league is cool, because it has even more power creep"



( I guess it wasn't the first time, but still ... come on :S )

To be fair, does anyone care about immersion non-ironically? I know I don't. If I want an immersive game, I'll play one better suited for it.

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FathomWheel a écrit :

To be fair, does anyone care about immersion non-ironically? I know I don't. If I want an immersive game, I'll play one better suited for it.

Of course.

If the game was not immersive at all in the slightest, it would not be there in the first place.

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Ptirodaktill a écrit :

I find it funny that some oldtimers completely forgot the state of the game back in beta.
And it was - go ele prolif ignite or stay forever in feldshir(docks). Trap-mined ele-prolif PB fireball oneshoted everething in the game with a single button push and it was like for 3 years? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9mZLeayvcg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvd9tmoCJUo .

lolz!

you're using THAT as an example? wow.

needing to use multiple traps to kill packs in a lvl 67 zone? you just proved my point. badly.