can we please stop the power creep, already? (or better - reverse it)

problem:

i'm ALSO a gladiator. and i'm RT. and i use a mace. (ie: my dps is shit). and my gear is cheaper than yours.

i don't die. and i'm a higher level than you. and i didn't play much this league. and i get ~10 fps in most delves. and i can beat content with ease (not sure why you keep mentioning t16s, aul seems to be harder).

hell, i generally can facetank most content. including chimera (the adds are more of a threat to me). i can afk chimera to death (smoke clouds aside)

your claim is faulty. you think of yourself as a skilled player, but your build clearly is far from good. and you STILL made it to 96. while apparently dying often and with a pretty terrible 6L setup.

you sink your own claim. your build/results are proof of absurd power creep.

Pls show me how you will afk chimera.
Show me how you done all t16 on cheap gear on ease as you said. Show me how you do 250+ depth Delve content.
You may very well do all of this, but as i said on word everyone is strong and say whatever he want to back his point.
Anyway i get your point. For you this game is easy, it`s like tetris.
For me and many other this is not the case.
I think i lose enough time, trying to get in normal discusion here.
If you want to prove something, nikcname, i will roll t16 and see how you afk in this maps.

lolz @ 250 depth

and i didn't say my gear was cheap per se, but it's cheaper than yours.



as for afking chimera... 82% block with riposte, reckoning, vengeance, molten shell, tempest. it's not rocket surgery.

Powercreep is a natural process, it's fine if the weakened content/items/skills/modifiers etc are removed, else the game become full of useless things...

Sorry but this is not average base gear.
You probably use Watcher`s eye and Red Nightmare Jewel with hatred crit.
Only the jewels are 10+ exalted. Chest back then was worth arround 10 exa on 6l.
Weapon are probably 10-20 exa, Shield is 1-2 exalted, belt is 15+ or maybe more exalted.
All Gems to 20 cost.
And without to sum it all, you are crossing the border 40.
No problem if you are rich already.
Maybe you get most of them on cheap. Maybe others don`t have your luck.
But for casuals, this will take quite some time.
We are talking about how easy the game is now, but they nerf ES again and again hard, nerf to the ground on instant leech, monster dmg got bumped, life on boses and so.
Just read this comment and i understand that the game was a lot easier, then now.


One last question and i`m done on this thread. If GGG decide to nerf most of the thing, to make game slower, like back in 2013 or so, and completely destroy builds, what exactly you think will happen ?
I can answer you right there. They are player base will be smashes to the ground and they will took big hit.

And don`t get me wrong, as i think every game should evolve, i`m also against of the new mods. Something has to be thinking about it, because it`s obvious they do it, because ppl want new content, want new mods and new builds.

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DeathKnight_Berserker a écrit :

Sorry but this is not average base gear.

...when did i claim it was?

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DeathKnight_Berserker a écrit :

You probably use Watcher`s eye and Red Nightmare Jewel with hatred crit.

1. i don't use a watcher's at all.
2. I SAID I USE RT. i don't crit.
3. no red nightmare, either. in fact, zero unique jewels at all.

the more you argue, the more you prove my claim. you don't know much about the mechanics. and yet, you still made it to lvl 96 in delve. while dying apparently often. and while implying that 250 depth is some sort of feat.

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DeathKnight_Berserker a écrit :

Only the jewels are 10+ exalted. Chest back then was worth arround 10 exa on 6l.
Weapon are probably 10-20 exa, Shield is 1-2 exalted, belt is 15+ or maybe more exalted.
All Gems to 20 cost.
And without to sum it all, you are crossing the border 40.

your math is terrible and AGAIN i don't use watchers and all of my jewels cost less than 1 ex ea.

your gloves (acuity and the 100 ex gloves you don't use) cost more than my entire build...


you quite simply don't know what you're talking about.

the fact that you have no idea of this and still made it well past level 90 illustrates power creep more than facetanking double uber elder.

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DeathKnight_Berserker a écrit :

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Regarding your gear :
- The anvil would be 10% less damage taken overall, I don't think any other amulet can give you that much.
- Tombist would probably be better for gloves, that said, Atziri's acuity isn't bad, but I'd rather take life regeneration here and there, get a Cwdt+IC setup to proc arakaali and boost your leech + your regeneration that way.

Guardians are supposed to be beefy, that's what they are, so maybe you should adjust your expectations a little bit ?

And if you're a gladiator, you could also drop violent retalation ( as good as it is ) to get gratuitous violence, this way you can then drop both ancestral call and melee splash on your main setup and gain 2 supports.
Or you could just use Hemophillia and drop both supports, so that you can use added fire + ele damage with attacks.
I guess I'd be you I'd take the Hemophilia gloves, violent retaliation is ridiculously good after all.


Anyway, you have literally 3 LESS damage support in your 6L, this is not good.

End game balance plz. Stop the Deathknight_Berserker's from winning holy christ this guy can't even write in english sentences but thinks his "MMORPG" background is how he comprehended 15 mistakes into lvl 96.

This is it Rob, I'm joining the 'stop power creep wagon.' I heard reddit's latest batch of complaints were revolving around "No New SELF CAST SUPPORT?!?!"
Cuz 50% more multi's and built in resistance sacs + more dmg stuff is shit. Clearly we need an 80% more spell damage support rather than an actual balance of the game/skills. There is blatantly nothing wrong here and reddit balance complaints should be addressed as intelligent and deserving of action per the well written genre it supports even if that goes against every sanctifying D$&K suck of what needs to be nerfed/buffed.

Cold dot hand fed more damage over time is just amazing. What a nice tier 3 option you've dictated as balance GGG. Clearly this is an in depth 1k hour testing team balance oriented add and addresses self cast discrepancies, poor cold skills needed that buff!!! I can't wait to see indigon winter orb shit on everything while cold damage over time was something you invested more man hours into making. Thank you so much. Moar good stuff guys. Thank god the other companies are effing up significantly worse eh?

As i said i`m done with the power creep things.
As far as my build goes, here we can communicate a bit.

robmafia, just because someone is using a different build, and focus on overall aiming on the character, doesn`t mean he know nothing about.
Also your attitude all the way, when you open the thread is being really a **** towards all with different then your opinion.
As well as friend using to buff and stand by your statement. Only a complete id*ot will miss that.

And of course i die, but never said i die often, like this would mean you will drop more xp then you will gain, and i would not be lvl 96. There aren`t undying characters, otherwise all would have played HC, and not move from there.

Leveling in this game is fast, till 90, then starting to took time, after 94 is gaining experience forewer, and you need mindless grinding to get forward. So now, leveling past 94 it`s not easy, and need heavy time investment. But why i do bother, when you miss the whole sentence and only catch for a coupe of phrases and always exaggerate.


Fruz, thanks for the advice, here is some feedback from me.
Anvil for my hero, firstly will drop my hit chance with 2%, then no crit multi/crit chance you can get from rare, also you lose plenty of dmg, 250 life and int if need. In my case i told you, you lose purely 50k. 3% max block chance is not worth it, when you are 79% with the buffs, when you will lose quite a big dmg, as well as 250 life, and so.

Second point with Tombfist. My 2 problems with them is, that they cut my gems by 2 and have to remove combo, as well as low armour. Cwdt is useless to me, cause it won`t proc often, because of the high block.
In Block builds, when you have so much block chance, counter-attacking skill atleast for me are better.
It procs me Power charges most of the time with my setup.
AS for Ascendancy i think the way it is now it`s pretty okay for me.
I don`t complain about DPS, it`s not high as most build, but to do it at this stake will lower my defences by quite a bit.
And sa i mention many time i aim for overall.
When i change the weapon, dmg will come. But 450+DPS sword are expensive.
When i equip such 50+ exalted weapon i will go do Elder, Uber, Shaper and so on.

As far as supported gems. Most Dual Wield are using them, yet their dmg is tripled. But again they go all on offense.

And don`t think i`m not trying different things. I try many things, not only on paper(POB), but in reality, how it`s feel, how i`m taking hits if i lower the defences and so on.
Also tried full physical with Impresence, free vulnerability, and there is plenty of thread for players that want full physical damage, but are complaining of lacking DMG.

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Deathknight_Berserker a écrit :

In Block builds, when you have so much block chance, counter-attacking skill atleast for me are better.

It won't trigger Arakali's passive.
IC will, it will when it matters = when you get hit ( it won't when pure dots damage you though, but either Arakali's passive is going to proc after or not at all in such a case anyway ).

I guess you could do reckoning + CoC + IC but ... you are going to loose quite some damage on your reckoning.

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Deathknight_Berserker a écrit :

When i equip such 50+ exalted weapon i will go do Elder, Uber, Shaper and so on.

There is a tremendous gap between shaper an uber elder.
If you are get somewhat comfortable with shaper but not more .... then forget about uber elder I'm afraid.

My char this league has no troubles with shaper in its current state, I do it deathless without much troubles.
Uber elder ? just not enough dps ( and I have burnt many frag sets, I'll re-spec another char for high dps to take him down after the merge ).


Saying that you will try those encounters only after you get that very expensive weapon clearly shows that you are not satisfied with your dps, and you could clearly increase it without having your defences suffer.
In fact, with defences barely changing and your dps doubling, you will increase your survivability because stuff will die just faster, much faster potentially.


Using Hemophillia gloves to boost your clearspeed and getting 2 dmg supports will not really lower defense imo, but it will bump your dps by a lot ( so much you might end up finding it better to afford using the anvil, who knows. I'm not saying that anvil is necessarily required for your build, a good amulet such as the one you have is definitely good too considering you are going for crit ).
That will not make your build full offense, it will still be very defensive.