Harbinger language/symbol translation

I don't know how to quote the recent announcement, but bex said the unique items have to be arranged in a particular order in order to translate their flavour text. Immediately below that paragraph is a list of harbinger symbols that correspond to each of the harbingers summoned by the unique items. Is it too obvious that the order of the symbols is the correct order in which the items have to be arranged?

So the order would be:

belt
mask
quiver
shield
staff
sword
Dernière édition par locobilbo#5689, le 28 août 2017 à 23:47:09
Ok here is my attempted translation of the history of the Harbingers. Each line corresponds to a line of flavour text on the unique items in the order described in my above post:

Spoiler
The skill of God grew in maps
The skill of God grew in time
The faithful of God were strengthened by His skill

The Beast enclosed time
God became weak and fled
The faithful of God lost their connection to Him
The faithful of God were scattered by their hidden Lord

God increased in strength
But God was disconnected from time
The faithful of God also grew in strength

The Beast was at a vulnerable time
The angry God struggled in exile
God found a way to mend His connection

The angry God in exile
The hidden God expanded his influence
The exiled God became renewed
The hidden God grew in influence among His hidden faithful

God's faithful grew in strength
God's faithful grew in skill
God's faithful focused on (something)
The faithful focused on Wraeclast


It is not particularly poetic but I think I have the gist of the meaning. Many symbols which I have translated, including those for skill, strength and power are by no means correct, but probably at least convey the same feeling.
wow, this is fantastic work! I find it very interesting! kudos to everybody on this
You're right about the order of the items Locobilbo. Though I am not entirely sure about the meaning of that symbol "skill". It could be it, though I have doubt.

Didn't expect that spiral symbol stands for "Beast". Bex wrote: "Spirals can often be found on the land and creatures the Beast influences", but I cant remember seeing it anywhere outside of "Beachhead" map. Probably wasn't paying enough attention :)
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke
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Toshis8 a écrit :
You're right about the order of the items Locobilbo. Though I am not entirely sure about the meaning of that symbol "skill". It could be it, though I have doubt.

Didn't expect that spiral symbol stands for "Beast". Bex wrote: "Spirals can often be found on the land and creatures the Beast influences", but I cant remember seeing it anywhere outside of "Beachhead" map. Probably wasn't paying enough attention :)


Spirals were added in 3.0 (even in beta). They are near almost every boss from A1 to A4 and also some map bosses. I remember wondering what do these spirals mean, but never found out. I guess they mean strong beast influence or something like that.
Dernière édition par DemonikPath#1311, le 29 août 2017 à 02:23:11
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Toshis8 a écrit :
You're right about the order of the items Locobilbo. Though I am not entirely sure about the meaning of that symbol "skill". It could be it, though I have doubt.


Yeah I originally thought that symbol meant skill because it appeared on the sword next to the symbol for 'expansion'. I previously interpreted that line as 'increased area of effect for skills' due the the similar mod on the weapon. Since I have dumped that translation it doesn't make sense to use it in my new translation, I know. However, I still do have a feeling that it looks like a pictogram of a socketed skill gem. It may be something to do with virtue gems, since they appear heavily in the lore?

Once it was revealed that the spiral meant 'beast' I think that gave away a lot of the meaning behind the flavour text, since it is likely that the God of the Harbingers has suffered the same fate as the gods of Wraeclast at the hands of the beast.
Dernière édition par locobilbo#5689, le 29 août 2017 à 03:50:24
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locobilbo a écrit :
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Toshis8 a écrit :
You're right about the order of the items Locobilbo. Though I am not entirely sure about the meaning of that symbol "skill". It could be it, though I have doubt.


Yeah I originally thought that symbol meant skill because it appeared on the sword next to the symbol for 'expansion'. I previously interpreted that line as 'increased area of effect for skills' due the the similar mod on the weapon. Since I have dumped that translation it doesn't make sense to use it in my new translation, I know. However, I still do have a feeling that it looks like a pictogram of a socketed skill gem. It may be something to do with virtue gems, since they appear heavily in the lore?

Once it was revealed that the spiral meant 'beast' I think that gave away a lot of the meaning behind the flavour text, since it is likely that the God of the Harbingers has suffered the same fate as the gods of Wraeclast at the hands of the beast.


Your explanation is logical and can be true, its just that uncertainty that bothers my mind. Like with that "beast" symbol. Was pretty sure it meant "Portal" by clues and its graphical look yet I was wrong.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke
Last symbol = Totem

Combo: Harbinger: Movement -> Totem + Fire
you last symbol

of couse
Hey guys,
The symbol with three arrows around the plus from latest message might be connected to a similar looking symbol with only a square instead of the plus. In the google document it is translated with dash, even though I think with the description of harbinger with it using skills more often than harbinger without it, it might mean chain, as in skills chain multiple times. So with the new encounters we might want to take a closer look on how the general skill used is modified, e.g. used multiple times. Looking at the pictures, I even suppose the plus and the square just originated from different interpretation of the pixels in the pictures. Anyway, we can check whether or not the theory is right by examining the fight mechanics. And if anybody more familiar with the game than I am can think of another way to modify the used skill in a similar way to chain multiple times, we might check whether or not there are two symbols or just one.

Since I played the game only for two leagues, I don't think I can reliably identify whether or not a skill is chained or something like this so I would want to leave this with more experienced players.

Btw from our findings do we know why exactly the harbingers came to wraeclast? We seem to be on the point where we say that their God was hindered by the Beast and with the Beast dead they have the power to visit other dimensions again.

But I would want to know whether they just want to conquer and rob wraeclast, suggested by the pieces of currency they are wearing or if they have another idea, which reaches further than just conquering. Since they appear solo or in little groups I would think they are sort of explorers and bringing home their findings. And they could be just scouts for a larger threat to come. Or maybe they are just exploring and feel threatened by us so thats why they attack.

Anyway great work to everyone have a nice day.

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