1500 fusings to Vorici 6L is a noob trap

Since every roll is independent this is contributed to pure luck.

I mean, i made a 6L on rampage by throwing a random fuse on a 6S pillar of the caged god.
Meanwhile my ilvl 80 regalia has eaten a lot more fuses (i throw 10 fuses per day at it or so) and even 5L seems rare.

Vorici is certainly not a noob trap if you want to link an item YOURSELF, however as pointed out, most items cost less to buy straight away and don't require you dedicating a stash tab to fuses.

One person's sample size is never enough, if we pooled together the stats of 100.000 tries then we would again see the 1500~ average appear with slight deviation because again, need more sample size.
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Dernière édition par Mannoth#4185, le 11 déc. 2014 à 17:54:30
I was bored last night (or was it the night before last ?) and since there were no famine to watch Ive watched helmann trying to 6L a shavs.

I think he had about 2200 attempts when he got it.

he was hosting a lottery so he didnt give a shit, but its not a noob trap by any means.
its a guarantee.
I dont like the idea of a guarantee but some do. so thats that
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Timewar9 a écrit :
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Robert_Paulson a écrit :
Hearsay has no place in science, I can only go by what I witness personally.


So you made a thread asking others opinions and then discount them entirely. Ok....carry on.


Perhaps you misunderstand.
Hearsay is unsubstantiated reports. Someone could say they 6 linked in 20 fusings when in reality they spent 1500 to Vorici. How am I to know?
Just as all the numbers presented in my OP 'could' be fictionalised for all you know.
Basically, if it's not witnessed via streaming, we each only have our own experiences to consider as 'fact'.

Is that clearer? Or are you just trolling?
Many lewt.
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Such rewarding.
Wow.
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I only ever tried to 6L once. A Searing Touch and I got it with 183 fusings. I would never chance that again though, since GGG said the odds were slightly better than 1/1500. Especially now that fusings are like 40:1ex.

If anything, I'd 6-socket the item and run a lottery for 10ex or something.

Also, whatever happened to
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Robert_Paulson a écrit :
I'm done with all this negativity from people who obviously have had a lot less luck than me. I'll just let this thread die.
You make my ochinchin go doki doki.

Dernière édition par GooberM#3961, le 11 déc. 2014 à 17:55:26
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GooberM a écrit :
Also, whatever happened to
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Robert_Paulson a écrit :
I'm done with all this negativity from people who obviously have had a lot less luck than me. I'll just let this thread die.

I'm now refraining from biting on clearly antagonistic posts, I can still reply to those I view as constructive.
People keep bumping the thread (mostly with questions/comments directed at me), so if they stop, I will too.
Perhaps it has not run it's course yet, but be assured, once dailies are up in an hour, I'll be off the forums. xD
Many lewt.
Much desync.
Such rewarding.
Wow.
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Dernière édition par Robert_Paulson#5467, le 11 déc. 2014 à 18:01:21
I have to agree with Robert, but I will qualify it by basing it on my experience.

I have played in 3 leagues and have six linked 6 or 7 items. Each of which has taken anywhere between 50 and 300 fusing. So based on my experience, I personally would never use Vorici. However, obviously others have had much different experience, thus I can understand the draw towards Vorici.

That is all.
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I agree. Do not use that recipe.
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Robert_Paulson a écrit :
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Timewar9 a écrit :
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Robert_Paulson a écrit :
Hearsay has no place in science, I can only go by what I witness personally.


So you made a thread asking others opinions and then discount them entirely. Ok....carry on.


Perhaps you misunderstand.
Hearsay is unsubstantiated reports. Someone could say they 6 linked in 20 fusings when in reality they spent 1500 to Vorici. How am I to know?
Just as all the numbers presented in my OP 'could' be fictionalised for all you know.
Basically, if it's not witnessed via streaming, we each only have our own experiences to consider as 'fact'.

Is that clearer? Or are you just trolling?


Oh I'm well aware of what hearsay means. I was more pointing towards you discounting everything you don't witness personally...which is pretty much everything that anyone else can possibly say in this thread. Unless someone feels like presenting video evidence.
We fight to delay the end because it's the means that matter.
Oh well, it's this kind of thread again. Probably already been said but here it is:

Use fusings if you want to gamble, the expected outcome is less than 1500 fusings, but there is the risk of total loss.

Use Vorici if you don't want to gamble and be willing to pay a premium to eliminate the risk.

Or just trade one.
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Robert_Paulson a écrit :
Seriously, to do this you've either got to be so rich that it's a drop in the bucket, or have incredibly bad luck.

Back in beta, I used to hear so many horror stories of 6L failures that it put me off trying. I'd roll 5L and just leave it at that unless it 6 linked before 5 linking.

I reinstalled halfway through the last leagues after a bit of a hiatus, and have had a lot more of a "carpe diem" (because "yolo" is for plebs) attitude about using my orbs.
In the last 3-4 weeks, I have 6 linked a few items (determined to 6L and continuing to roll on any 5L because it may as well be unlinked ;) never coming anywhere near 1000 fusings let alone 1500.

about 120 fusings

36 fusings

Around 150 each

And a spine bow, that I use for gem leveling on weapon switch with enlighten, in ONE fusing.

And with all this success, I have not had a single item that I've burned lots of fusings on and failed. All but the spine bow were done without using scraps/whetstones for quality.


So am I just incredibly lucky (consistently), or are the fusing chances actually a lot better than this pessimistic community has led me to believe?
Good for you bro. Meanwhile I wasted 240 yesterday and couldn't even get a five link. Ended up just paying the 150 for the guaranteed success.

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