Realistically how bad are the counter attack gems going to be?

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Chundadragon a écrit :

Meh, most end high-end melee builds already one-shot packs on attack, kinda lame :S

This.
I was hoping that those counterattack gems would be more than trigger CWDT gems...
If i see anywhere on that gem the "reserves x mana" or deals "x amount of dmg" (x < 100% of dmg) or even "attacks single target" i will lose every hope for melee.

I am really bored with mages/archers but since they are the only thing viable in this game (cast on crit aside) i might have to play one again...

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S3ph1r0th a écrit :

I am really bored with mages/archers but since they are the only thing viable in this game (cast on crit aside) i might have to play one again...

Reave is viable.

My disappointment coming from expectation that counter attack skills would be something, that allows me to actively participate in defending myself. We've got automated attack skills instead. I definitely want to try these skills and I think it will be popular at the end.
But as being said, there is some serious imbalance between melee and range and these skills solves nothing. Especially desync is killing melee builds, when many people experience gameplay as a broken game.

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BossOfThisGym a écrit :

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Reckoning: Perform a swift counter-attack against enemies in a cone shape when you block with your shield.

I bet it's something like

-5 sec cooldown
-reserves 15% of your mana
-stops current actions
-locks you in place

:^)

You lack skills in predicting things in this game. All the counter attack skills will be insane.
These forums will be full of people crying for nerfs in three days.
Mark my words

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yotmato a écrit :

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f4sak3n a écrit :

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yotmato a écrit :

- So after casting the totem, you approach the pack, and start cycloning, but fuck, in that time, your totem is already dead, and the blind (assuming it actually blinded anything) wore off, but hey, theres still 5 mobs that are enfeebled, cool right?

I don't think you realise just how long 4 seconds is, especially in game. If it takes you 4 seconds to kill a pack, even as melee, you've done something seriously wrong. I'd suggest you head over to the build forums and pick out a new, non-gimpy build for yourself.

As you can see good sir, there is not a single sentence where i talk about how long it actually takes you to kill the mobs.

Have a good day.



Peace,

-Yotmato-

While I generally agree the SWT is a poor choice for this, you do indirectly indicate that it takes you longer than 4 seconds to kill the pack since the blind will have worn off before you get to them.

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Millacus a écrit :

While I generally agree the SWT is a poor choice for this, you do indirectly indicate that it takes you longer than 4 seconds to kill the pack since the blind will have worn off before you get to them.

Correct, but not because you have poor DPS, but because of how clunky the SWT idea sounds.

A side point: did Curse on Hit start working with totems at some point? I played with it when came out and it didn't work with totems/traps/mines.

Edit: I'm having a go at melee first to see how well it can be done with the new changes. I'm hoping Vengeance + Melee Phys Dmg + Stun + Endurance Charge on Melee Stun is possible so I could get ECoMS off of my AoE attack and have self sustaining charges while clearing packs. I really hope it doesn't need reserved mana!

stun + ecoms sounds really nice actually, certainly a buff for this underused gems.

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yotmato a écrit :

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Millacus a écrit :

While I generally agree the SWT is a poor choice for this, you do indirectly indicate that it takes you longer than 4 seconds to kill the pack since the blind will have worn off before you get to them.

Correct, but not because you have poor DPS, but because of how clunky the SWT idea sounds.

Ah, point taken. I've been playing Arc for the last few months exclusively so didn't take into account how much of an effect the knockback and extra range would have on clear speed.