Why go melee when ranged does everything better?

Glasscannons with 200 Ex gloves, so called Acuity's....do i need to say more ?

Any medium good melee build outperforms these 2000 Ex Standard builds in new leagues by length..

I make builds for fun, release them for others to enjoy. I'm not going to bother anymore. The discrepancy is far too great now.

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Skyforth a écrit :

I make builds for fun, release them for others to enjoy. I'm not going to bother anymore. The discrepancy is far too great now.

Well, I certainly enjoyed the concept. Hope to see you playing melee again if it someday gets buffed.

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Skyforth a écrit :

Damage mitigation:

Take damage for melee vs Don't take damage for ranged.

Facetank vs kite No additional defences for melee other than block with shield/dual wield (which was nerfed to the ground)

Clear speed (damage output):

Top 4 Fastest Gorge clears are all ranged builds.

Flicker (dagger crit) comes 5th, melee sits on perhaps the slowest clear speeds ever.

Desync:

Get stuck on rocks, doorways, ledge, chests, cliffs, arches, fences, gates, walls and can't do damage because you're melee.

VS

Shoot them from wherever because you're ranged.



The list goes on and on

The counterattck gems are the dumbest idea i've ever seen for PVE. (Fuck PVP, you need a strong core game first)

So, what's the point of melee now?

Because melee is fun. And you are playing a game, not an efficiency simulator.
Whatever.Some people will never get it anyway:)

awesome shit...acro-ondar rangers with über lightningwarp+über animate guardian.
retardedly op.
all this nerfs and tweaks for pvp but make bow more op? makes so much sense ggg.

Armor = absolutely useless
Evade and block to make melee useful = axed
Fast Life leech to facetank = uuhh yea, even non-instant leech was nerfed
Easily accessible Max resists for the signature melee tankiness = AXED
Bringer of rain, Soul Taker, Kaoms Heart = nerfed.

Melee, wat do?

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Skyforth a écrit :

Damage mitigation:

Take damage for melee vs Don't take damage for ranged.

Facetank vs kite No additional defences for melee other than block with shield/dual wield (which was nerfed to the ground)

Clear speed (damage output):

Top 4 Fastest Gorge clears are all ranged builds.

Flicker (dagger crit) comes 5th, melee sits on perhaps the slowest clear speeds ever.

Desync:

Get stuck on rocks, doorways, ledge, chests, cliffs, arches, fences, gates, walls and can't do damage because you're melee.

VS

Shoot them from wherever because you're ranged.



The list goes on and on

The counterattck gems are the dumbest idea i've ever seen for PVE. (Fuck PVP, you need a strong core game first)

So, what's the point of melee now?

Flickr strike isnt even real melee. Noone with respect for themselves wants to play flickr build, you get eye cancer from the infinite screen jumping.


The problem is not melee. The problem is that ranged is way too good. This way melee can never compete. I have mentioned this half a year ago. The problem is ranged + gmp + chain + high crit values. The problem is balance and the inability of GGG to:
1. analyse problems correctly
2. react accordingly
3. lacking courage/capacity of real changes

There are plenty of solutions. Ranged builds do not need to gmp all clear rooms of enemies within a second in a racing style of gameplay in the highest content. It is just not necessary and "wanted". One simple solution would be to nerf GMP/LMP etc. with crit debuffs.

When I started to play this game, Melee had a couple "advantages":
"Multistrike" to repeat attacks with autoaim.
"Melee physical damage", there was no such multiplier for ranged/spells.

Players cried, players got "Spell Echo" and "Physical Projectile Attack Damage".
Now we only need "multishot" and "more spell damage" gems. ;)

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Peterlerock a écrit :

When I started to play this game, Melee had a couple "advantages":
"Multistrike" to repeat attacks with autoaim.
"Melee physical damage", there was no such multiplier for ranged/spells.

Players cried, players got "Spell Echo" and "Physical Projectile Attack Damage".
Now we only need "multishot" and "more spell damage" gems. ;)

Lel
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