PoE is stacked against the solo player

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mark1030 a écrit :

Considering how after every 4 month season they implement components from the challenge leagues into Standard and Hardcore, don't you think just a little tiny bit that your clinging to current conditions in standard is indeed outdated? If not, we should table this discussion for 1 month so you can get a good feel for the direction the game is heading.

Lvl 79 character - lvl 85 character. How is my experience outdated and his isn't?

How is my experience outdated when I have ~10 70 lvl maps out of ~200 68/69 maps played? What exactly is outdated and how can that be an argument here?

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tinko92 a écrit :

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mark1030 a écrit :

Considering how after every 4 month season they implement components from the challenge leagues into Standard and Hardcore, don't you think just a little tiny bit that your clinging to current conditions in standard is indeed outdated? If not, we should table this discussion for 1 month so you can get a good feel for the direction the game is heading.

Lvl 79 character - lvl 85 character. How is my experience outdated and his isn't?

How is my experience outdated when I have ~10 70 lvl maps out of ~200 68/69 maps played? What exactly is outdated and how can that be an argument here?

Sorry, I assumed your only reference point was Standard. You must just have the worst luck ever. Everybody I know in Ambush has had no problem getting low to mid 70 maps. I haven't had a ton of 76+ maps, but I haven't fallen below 72 in at least a month and a half. I've been farming Sarn for most of that time and adding 1, 2, or 3 sacrifices to each map along with 4 chisels to get as much chance to drop maps as possible. Starting to get low on some sacrifice pieces so I'll have to start farming them a little more often soon. And then if I do find a cart box in a map, I go back to town (have plenty of portals when solo) and I grab as much currency as I can and I roll the crap out of it to get + chest level and + additional items. Got 11 maps out of one last week, all 74 - 76. Three were mirrored white ones so I couldn't roll them, but still, not that hard to maintain a map pool in Ambush.

It's all about the luck in finding carto boxes in the right map level. If you manage to find one fairly occasionally, then you should be fine up to 75/76 maps.

I'm at least glad that they provide a global impact on map prices.

Anyway, we shouldn't even use Ambush as the current version of the game, at least for map drops/prices, because as it's being said, it will only last until the end of Ambush because economy is suffering.
It's a testing ground (as 4-month leagues are) and it showed to GGG that it's not the direction they want (and apparently some other hardcore guys too, who don't even play related content and hold gambling/luck to be the hardcore thing, which is why I can only laugh in the face of every single hardcore guy).

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tinko92 a écrit :

Hilarious response.
Obviously you're better off soloing if you cannot find a group with a MF culler.

Glad we agree that solo > most groups then.

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tinko92 a écrit :

So where is the problem in sharing the build and gear? It's very simple and you're complicating it for nothing, or for something :)
Yes, I've never heard of a good solo build, educate me and show me yours, I don't care about your wordy descriptions/stories.

Easy, where is the problem?

It's off-topic, if you want to discuss my build for some reason (pretty standard CoC build) we can make another thread lol.

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tinko92 a écrit :

You've played it for an hour, and you have that character since the beginning of Ambush, 2+ months of not playing the game and in that time got 6 more levels than my character.

You're embarrassing yourself with the outdated argument, really.

Ah, you mean my main character? Yes, haven't played that one in a while. Still, nothing changed with maps since the last time I played it, while your standard league experience is and stays outdated. I also played some meeps on my witch 2 weeks ago. You should stop grasping at straws :P

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tinko92 a écrit :

The math is that you're incompetent in finding a group with higher MF, and that's why you're obviously better off solo.

We should add that up in the pro-solo stuff.

No, the math is, as long as you have to rely on random groups, soloing is better most of the time. Solo > most groups, we agreed on that before :3

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tinko92 a écrit :

No you haven't. I'll copy-paste it.
- "Like I've said, the only case where solo play is better than group play is when you have a character that has very high MF, high survivability and high clear speed, and that can only be achieved with ranged characters.
And that's before leveling starts being super expensive, when it gets, even that character is better off in group play."

And that doesn't hold weight? What does?

It doesn't hold weight because it's wrong? You don't need high MF to be better than most groups (see above), and the other two points can be achieved with almost any character, not just ranged. Furthermore, leveling never starts to get 'super expensive' x)

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tinko92 a écrit :

Why should a group "do better" than solo at any occasion?
Isn't grouping supposed to be for the multiplayer experience?
"Nobody would group if grouping wasn't more efficient" is as bad as it can be, people who like to play with others would group up, that's their incentive, their fun factor.

Because there should be an incentive to go through the hassle of forming and maintaining a well synergized group in order to play in the most efficient way. The fun factor still remains for people who don't care about efficiency.

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tinko92 a écrit :

Epic... and a sign that I should really stop this ridiculousness.

Mad because true?

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tinko92 a écrit :

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mark1030 a écrit :

Considering how after every 4 month season they implement components from the challenge leagues into Standard and Hardcore, don't you think just a little tiny bit that your clinging to current conditions in standard is indeed outdated? If not, we should table this discussion for 1 month so you can get a good feel for the direction the game is heading.

Lvl 79 character - lvl 85 character. How is my experience outdated and his isn't?

How is my experience outdated when I have ~10 70 lvl maps out of ~200 68/69 maps played? What exactly is outdated and how can that be an argument here?

It's outdated because you're always referring to your standard league mapping experience. Your Ambush league experience is quite non-existant, getting stuck in lvl 70 maps and quitting isn't exactly comparable to your standard league experience. If you would actually bother to map a bit in Ambush, you'd see how maintaining maps has become a joke and everyone can do it, even solo :3