General Discussion - ES stacking witches are friggin garbage vs armor/evade - Forum

yeah its basically works like HP except potions don't heal it. Chaos damage ignores it. Can't life leech to restore it without key talents.	Posté par Fluttershypony#7753 le 31 janv. 2013 à 12:16:14 Banni(e) Citer ce post
" folderpirate a écrit : You know theres a node that makes you immune to stuns, right? Impossible to reach with Shadow/Witch/Ranger (unless you waste half of your passives for that) and it kills your evasion. Make Spectral Throw great again	Posté par CommodoX#7313 le 31 janv. 2013 à 12:22:52 Citer ce post
" MasterDinadan a écrit : ES is broken because you can't easily just stack it and ignore health? Please... Try stacking armor or evasion while ignoring health and tell me it's any better. Relying on a single stat for defense just isn't a good idea unless you know what you're doing. Their is a difference with gear though. Armour have es, evasion and armour, you get health from other sources so you will have atleast some other defensive stat. When using ES all your gear will give it which leaves less room for armour and evasion. " folderpirate a écrit : You know theres a node that makes you immune to stuns, right? Its on the opposite of the tree, its to far and most likely it will contain little other nodes you can use since you don't want health. Dernière édition par Berjiz#3663, le 31 janv. 2013 à 12:35:19	Posté par Berjiz#3663 le 31 janv. 2013 à 12:32:11 Citer ce post
Thought I heard someone say on stream "You can itemize gear for almost anything. Stats, ES, % ES, Armour, Evasion, Resistances... but you can only find % Life on the Tree." "Im just Path of Exile-ing my way through college."	Posté par LensHunter#0825 le 31 janv. 2013 à 12:35:06 Citer ce post
" Berjiz a écrit : " MasterDinadan a écrit : ES is broken because you can't easily just stack it and ignore health? Please... Try stacking armor or evasion while ignoring health and tell me it's any better. Relying on a single stat for defense just isn't a good idea unless you know what you're doing. Their is a difference with gear though. Armour have es, evasion and armour, you get health from other sources so you will have atleast some other defensive stat. When using ES all your gear will give it which leaves less room for armour and evasion. That's exactly what I'm saying. You can't expect to stack ES and ignore HP. This is like stacking armor without HP or stacking evasion without HP. To actually have decent survivability, you need HP plus some combination of ES,evade,armor. I don't know why people think they should be able to ignore HP with one armor type but not with another.	Posté par MasterDinadan#3839 le 31 janv. 2013 à 12:38:07 Citer ce post
" Fluttershypony a écrit : Yeah ok unless you want to go CI(which is godamn awful now) then stacking ES is just a newbie trap into making a gimp char. Low health + high ES = you get stunned for 5 seconds everytime you get hit, as getting stunned(or shocked/frozen) depends entirely on damage taken vs max health(ES doesn't factor). Flasks of health don't help out energy shield. Energy shield is useless vs chaos without CI. Life leeching doesn't work on ES unless you sacrifice points for ghost reaver. I'd rather have just stacked HP and wear as much physical armor as I can, at the very least I would have reliable mitigation and GREATLY increased resistance to any stun/freeze/shock mechanic. I heard that Molten Shell and Charges work wonders to reduce melee dmg and increase armor. It might just be a rumor though... <.<	Posté par DJMantiss#7018 le 31 janv. 2013 à 12:40:26 Citer ce post
" Fluttershypony a écrit : Low health + high ES . There's your problem. You will die to Chaos damage all day long -- it bypasses ES. High ES also benefits from reduced regen delay. ES is really just an additional life pool that regenerates very fast. ES is for casters that take occasional (mostly) ranged damage, Evasion is for melee characters that occasionally take melee damage. Armour is for melee characters that take sustained melee damage. None of the defense mechanism work if you have low life. Evading 95% of all attacks with low life still means that you die to every 20th hit you take. Preventing 95% of all damage with armour still lest 5% through and if you have low life that 5% of all damage can still kill you in a few hits.	Posté par MBata#2543 le 31 janv. 2013 à 12:44:01 Citer ce post
" MasterDinadan a écrit : " Berjiz a écrit : " MasterDinadan a écrit : ES is broken because you can't easily just stack it and ignore health? Please... Try stacking armor or evasion while ignoring health and tell me it's any better. Relying on a single stat for defense just isn't a good idea unless you know what you're doing. Their is a difference with gear though. Armour have es, evasion and armour, you get health from other sources so you will have atleast some other defensive stat. When using ES all your gear will give it which leaves less room for armour and evasion. That's exactly what I'm saying. You can't expect to stack ES and ignore HP. This is like stacking armor without HP or stacking evasion without HP. To actually have decent survivability, you need HP plus some combination of ES,evade,armor. I don't know why people think they should be able to ignore HP with one armor type but not with another. You seem to have gotten somethign wrong, stacking all three defense+life is probably the worse thing you can do. Because of how the passive tree, gear and stacking works you get much higher benfits by pouring everything into one or two of them. Most things are like that, you get more out of it if you specialise but also get more vunurable to the disadvatnged with the defense. And if you ES stack then you will get CI and then you can't get life at all. Getting evasion or amrour will reduce your es because of the gear, it might give better EHP though depending on numbers.	Posté par Berjiz#3663 le 31 janv. 2013 à 12:51:25 Citer ce post
ES gives you the option of running different potions. (e.g. granite, res pots, mana pots) With ES you can make mean DPS builds, if you build around Pain attunement (30% multiplicative dmg if you're on low hp) + auras fueled with blood magic support. It gives you 1-2 free auras, along with +30% mulplicative dmg. You'll die instantly to chaos damage, however, but you can just avoid the few areas that contain mobs with chaos dmg, and skip the maps with added chaos damage. Or, get items for +75% chaos resistance and just fuel one auras off of hp.	Posté par surmatte#2313 le 31 janv. 2013 à 12:57:26 Citer ce post
" surmatte a écrit : ..but you can just avoid the few areas that contain mobs with chaos dmg, All mobs in western forest do chaos damage (yes also the melee ones) it's mot really possible to skip that area. Nothing to see here.	Posté par ReZar#2635 le 31 janv. 2013 à 14:21:36 Citer ce post