ES stacking witches are friggin garbage vs armor/evade

You guys need to realize this guy has only been here since the Jan 23 2013.

CI used to have a bonus of +50% not 80%.

Also, yes, they do skill tree point resets when they modify or add a skill or skills to the game.

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Lyralei a écrit :

Which is why many ES builds get the Eye of Chayula unique.

It's not only a complete loss of 1 armor slot, but it also gives you a 20% hp loss.

I'd understand if CI gave like 80-100% ES because you can afford having no hp, but that just makes it worse.

CI did have +50% ES before open beta. It was removed because too many health users said it was overpowered. I'm sure GGG will address this when they mess with the skill tree. Personally I think +25% is a good middle ground.

For the moment, until further changes happen, maybe you shouldn't play full ES. Make a Templar if you dont want a witch. They're supposed to be Armor/ES/HP, if thats how you want to play him.

Who just stacks one defensive stat anyway?

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Agilaz a écrit :

Who just stacks one defensive stat anyway?

People who go Phase Acrobatics?

Wait no I have Evasion, HP, and Block Chance... still 3 stats even in a squishy high risk build.

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Flatlander57 a écrit :

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Agilaz a écrit :

Who just stacks one defensive stat anyway?

People who go Phase Acrobatics?

Wait no I have Evasion, HP, and Block Chance... still 3 stats even in a squishy high risk build.

I so did that in CB, and people were like, "that build sucks dude, evasion is teh sux right now, lolz", and they were right cause it ended up being like Russian roulette.

*evade evade evade evade poke DEAD"

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Agilaz a écrit :

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Flatlander57 a écrit :

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Agilaz a écrit :

Who just stacks one defensive stat anyway?

People who go Phase Acrobatics?

Wait no I have Evasion, HP, and Block Chance... still 3 stats even in a squishy high risk build.

I so did that in CB, and people were like, "that build sucks dude, evasion is teh sux right now, lolz", and they were right cause it ended up being like Russian roulette.

*evade evade evade evade poke DEAD"

It still is like that, pure evasion is the WORST singular defense in the game, it only works well when combined with other forms of armour.

Even evasion+dodge is better than friggin ES.

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Fluttershypony a écrit :

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Seriously the wikis, player information and big topics about builds are WAY out of date...
Lolnofullresets.

Then instead of just leeching off of these things and whining, especially when many of these trees also require certain gear setups, contribute. Post your own build recommendations, work on different gear setups and see how those changes may hinder or help your build. From what you have posted so far your opinion is that the build is the problem and not the user, or a combination of the two.

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MasterDinadan a écrit :

ES is broken because you can't easily just stack it and ignore health? Please... Try stacking armor or evasion while ignoring health and tell me it's any better. Relying on a single stat for defense just isn't a good idea unless you know what you're doing.

What kind of twisted logic is that? You CAN stack health without stacking anything else and still do well... In fact, Armor is useless against what really hurts you, and Evasion doesnt work on spells so yeah, Health is the only thing you can rely on

Name ONE advantage of going ES instead of HP
Even for Witches, which should be the most obvious ES character, going HP is STILL more effective (especially if you reach the Templar nodes for Body and Soul)

Thats how you know its broken... The fact is, they need to either increase current ES dramatically, REDUCE the cooldown (6 seconds? really?), or introduce ES flasks, because right now ES is outclassed in every single way