Why do people who hate RNG play POE?

in answer to OP's title question

following reason's
1 the game is free completely totally and utterly
2 has one of the (if not) best game design's ive seen in a while
3 is an actual challenge (go play league of angels and you know what i mean)

because every other game is complete trash

i don't hate RNG...but RNG hates me...

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Saltychipmunk a écrit :

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Kuriosium a écrit :

I don't mean to provoke anyone, I just feel like RNG is a core part of the game (and simular games in the genre) and I have trouble understanding how someone who hates to depend on luck would keep playing this game. I love RNG, and therefore I keep playing. If I hated RNG I would play something completely different.

that is easy.

We play poe because we wanted a game with the aesthetics and depth of diablo 1 /2

if diablo 3 had delivered on those two simple concepts (which it did not in any way) then poe would be in a much worse position.

But diablo 3 literally delivered the core diablo 2 community on a silver platter to GGG

I shouldn't have to say this but gritty dark fantasy arpg games are actually quite rare, you can count the good ones on one hand.

Part of me is waiting for ggg to easy up on the rng, because under that proverbial mountain of rng mechanics is a truly wonderful game. It is just that mining down to that golden core is getting tiresome.


And in fact , people ARE leaving .

+1

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Ocylix a écrit :

haters will hate.

if you give them less RNG, they will still complain that there is still too much RNG.

the LOW becomes the new HIGH. they will never get satisfied.

NEVER.

Your argument is wrong since when the point where there is no RNG anymore, the new "low" cannot be the new high since you can't go any lower.

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Zaqwert a écrit :

You can love RNG but think there is too much of it.

It's not a matter of 0 RNG or 100% RNG, there can be a happy medium.

I think the balance in PoE is pretty good, but I think some important things are slightly too RNG dependent (like getting 5/6 sockets and links)

Do you think the balance is good now or before the vaal orb was introduced? Because the RNG factor was massively increased by the implementation of that orb.

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Saltychipmunk a écrit :

it was about getting very specific items , in a very specific combination that did VERY specific things and the investment was in the rarity of those items.

like getting high runes or an eth shield to put them in. runes didn't have a random chance of doing fuck all.

I think another important thing D2 did right was allow specific items to drop from specific bosses, even if the chance could be infinitesimally small. You could actually focus your farming for the specific set piece, unique, or rune that you wanted. PoE loot tables just become increasingly punishing in expanding non-specific loot tables with ever more likely garbage drops. Seems they kinda are going to the D2 design with Atziri stuff, but that's more like a Pandemonium Event type thing than targeted farming in my view.

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CharanJaydemyr a écrit :

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Saltychipmunk a écrit :

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Kuriosium a écrit :

I don't mean to provoke anyone, I just feel like RNG is a core part of the game (and simular games in the genre) and I have trouble understanding how someone who hates to depend on luck would keep playing this game. I love RNG, and therefore I keep playing. If I hated RNG I would play something completely different.

that is easy.

We play poe because we wanted a game with the aesthetics and depth of diablo 1 /2

if diablo 3 had delivered on those two simple concepts (which it did not in any way) then poe would be in a much worse position.

But diablo 3 literally delivered the core diablo 2 community on a silver platter to GGG

I shouldn't have to say this but gritty dark fantasy arpg games are actually quite rare, you can count the good ones on one hand.

Part of me is waiting for ggg to easy up on the rng, because under that proverbial mountain of rng mechanics is a truly wonderful game. It is just that mining down to that golden core is getting tiresome.


And in fact , people ARE leaving .

You can count the good ones on one finger.

I'm still not sure where you stand, Salty. Are you in, or are you out?

expect an answer shortly

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Kuriosium a écrit :

I don't mean to provoke anyone, I just feel like RNG is a core part of the game (and simular games in the genre) and I have trouble understanding how someone who hates to depend on luck would keep playing this game. I love RNG, and therefore I keep playing. If I hated RNG I would play something completely different.

Sorry for my late reply, just got back, but to awnser the OP:

Because there are NO other game to play.
For the old Diablo 2 fans, and all ARPG fans that enjoy depth and dark, PoE is the ONLY choice out there.
There are no other ARPG that come close, that captures the dark feel of Diablo 2 while offering the player the freedom and depth of a complex build system.
So we are stuck with either PoE or nothing.
Nothing being Diablo 3, Torchlight 2, or going back to Diablo 2. So yeah, left with nothing.

Unfortunately, many of PoE's systems are crippled by many overlapping layers of unnecessarily harsh RNG, which leaves these systems awfully unrewarding, and many times slows down the progression of the game because we are stuck with items we just cannot upgrade from.