[3.7] 1H-Impale Cyclone Champion/Slayer - 16M+ Shaper DPS Fullbuffed / 158%-220% Movspeed Speedy Boy

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Szynima a écrit :
Little update here
Skilltree:
-Charging Offensive is has been replaced by Brutal Blade on the Skilltree
-Life and Mana Leech node taken out for some more Attackspeed + Critchance

Gems:
-Increased Duration on Immortal Call + Vulnerabilitysetup removed, replaced with Summon Lightning Golem
-Summon Lightning Golem moved away, so we support Leap Slam with Endurance Charge on Stun and Fortify now for extra defense

Champion/Slayer:
Slayer has officially beaten Champion DPS wise even without the 20% cull. This mainly happens due to the fact that I built in 2 rings now that reduce the total cost of all skills to 0, so we can fit another aura in. On mobs Champion is still stronger and also defensively ahead, 12% movementspeed increase is also quite nice, but Slayer beats it currently with increased AOE, overleech and generally higher Boss-DPS.

It's still up to you what you take, Champion is a bit tankier with 6% less damage on Bosses, while Slayer has more DPS there and is better at clearing Maps fast.

I never thought the DPS would actually feel this good, so we might overkill it with Champion in Maps and are better of increasing the overall AOE to run through the maps faster. But that's up to everyone else.


Would you now recommend to go slayer or to go champion?
I just started maps and never played slayer or champion, so a decision out of preference is not really valid :D.
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DoomHammer_Zozobra a écrit :
So is champion still going to be as crazy with DPS as was posted in the title? 13M+ is A L O T, i already went Champion and am now sort of doubting myself.


Champ went up to 14mil, Slayer almost at 16mil now

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chinpokemon2905 a écrit :

awesome :) decides it going 1h slayer. Just your usual suspects for leveling weapons? 1h phys swords (Redbeak, upgraded redbeak, prismatic scaeva)?


yea exactly, just phys stacking :D

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Rottenbeer a écrit :

Would you now recommend to go slayer or to go champion?
I just started maps and never played slayer or champion, so a decision out of preference is not really valid :D.


Slayer is more forgiving if you don't pay as much attention, since he can leech against hits easier. Also has more range due to higher aoe, so you don't have to be too close into things.

Champs is generally for the more experienced who spam bosses.
Streamlink: https://www.twitch.tv/szynima
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChwoAYZn8wbwAwE1260cMdw

My Builds
1H-Impale Cyclone Champion/Slayer: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2514647
Damn, feelsbadman already got lvl 68 Champ, feels shit that now Slayer is the better option, what a pepega.
pls do not throw away champion build. PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS
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Szynima a écrit :
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DoomHammer_Zozobra a écrit :
So is champion still going to be as crazy with DPS as was posted in the title? 13M+ is A L O T, i already went Champion and am now sort of doubting myself.


Champ went up to 14mil, Slayer almost at 16mil now

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chinpokemon2905 a écrit :

awesome :) decides it going 1h slayer. Just your usual suspects for leveling weapons? 1h phys swords (Redbeak, upgraded redbeak, prismatic scaeva)?


yea exactly, just phys stacking :D

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Rottenbeer a écrit :

Would you now recommend to go slayer or to go champion?
I just started maps and never played slayer or champion, so a decision out of preference is not really valid :D.


Slayer is more forgiving if you don't pay as much attention, since he can leech against hits easier. Also has more range due to higher aoe, so you don't have to be too close into things.

Champs is generally for the more experienced who spam bosses.


Everything but the ascendancy is the same for Slayer though right?
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erokezz a écrit :
pls do not throw away champion build. PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS


Nah I won't, don't worry :P

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chinpokemon2905 a écrit :

Everything but the ascendancy is the same for Slayer though right?


Slayer is using Ice Golem to makeup for the accuracy loss, we also invest some more into impale chance + effect, but thats about it.
Streamlink: https://www.twitch.tv/szynima
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChwoAYZn8wbwAwE1260cMdw

My Builds
1H-Impale Cyclone Champion/Slayer: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2514647
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1Marko1 a écrit :
Damn, feelsbadman already got lvl 68 Champ, feels shit that now Slayer is the better option, what a pepega.


Just run a lab, refund all your ascendancy traits and change to slayer
Can someone please in detail explain to me how we're supposed to go so fast while channeling Cyclone? I have 30% Movespeed boots, I have Quicksilver Flask/Silver Flask which I have up all the time.. Yet it's so slow, honestly makes me not want to play the build at all.


I'm tired of getting this generic answer of "Oh well it has to do with your movement speed, also use Leap to jump from pack to pack if they're semi-close..." OBVIOUSLY.. That doesn't change how fast my Cyclone moves when I'm channeling it.

As it stands right now with my boots, my flasks up Cyclone is like slower normal running speed without movement speed boots on, which feels terrible and slow.
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Can someone please in detail explain to me how we're supposed to go so fast while channeling Cyclone? I have 30% Movespeed boots, I have Quicksilver Flask/Silver Flask which I have up all the time.. Yet it's so slow, honestly makes me not want to play the build at all.


I'm tired of getting this generic answer of "Oh well it has to do with your movement speed, also use Leap to jump from pack to pack if they're semi-close..." OBVIOUSLY.. That doesn't change how fast my Cyclone moves when I'm channeling it.

As it stands right now with my boots, my flasks up Cyclone is like slower normal running speed without movement speed boots on, which feels terrible and slow.


You don't move fast while using cyclone. You use your leap slma/phase run to quickly change between packs of mobs
Any suggestions for what to focus on with a 6 link chest that isn't Bronn's? 5.5 Ex is a biiiiit pricey atm.

Also:

Video with slayer when? XD I'd like to see how big the cyclone is to judge if I want to swap ascendancy classes.
Champion Bladestorm Super Tank - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2785401
Dernière édition par GonzoHarratec, le 10 juin 2019 16:24:46

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