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Aim_Deep a écrit :
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Aim_Deep a écrit :
Probably has 50% more DPS for real
LOL. No.
Dont laugh. are you checking shocked in PoB?
I get 620K with disfavor and 968K with star forge with exact same gear. On character the gay blade of course i switch to sword instead of axe node thats all and check shocked sionce star forge shocks with good shocking chance
lol
As others have mentioned ticking shock is a stupid thing to do. To shock shaper for 1% increased damage shock, you need a 200k hit. I think you can extrapolate from here why you should discount shock on starforge. You will be getting full shocks on trash mobs sure, but it will hardly be a noticeable difference as both builds should evaporte trash on contact.
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Goremise a écrit :
Actually remember that Starforges base is not as high as Disfavour.
Starforge has higher % increased Phys damage, disfavour has higher added damage. Disfavour is better to 30% quality because of this.
AND of course the bleeding and range bonuses are too good to pass up. Plus the axe bonuses are better. Disfavour (and if you can get one later, a super hate splitter) are the best weapons for cyclone.
Two points about this is that the Razor's edge notable is going to give you bleed chance, and melee range either way. The third point is that either way, they both are fuck tons of dps, enough to easily wail on the shaper and red elder (some people claim the uber elder too, but I haven't done it do I won't comment), but starforge gives you more survivability, and is cheaper.
And just for people who look at this later to make a similar but not exactly the same decision, disfavor is significantly more dps if you choose to not go the pure phys route, but use elemental conversions.
Dernière édition par j33bus#3399, le 29 mars 2018 à 11:34:52
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Posté parj33bus#3399le 29 mars 2018 à 11:32:55
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Peterlerock a écrit :
There's two questions in the OP.
1. Which weapon is better for a pure phys build?
Starforge has higher damage, and can also be scaled with crit, which is harder ro pull off on Disfavor.
Disfavor can use Sunder, and Disfavor is not restricted to pure phys in the first place.
2. Which weapon is better to 30% corrupt?
30% Starforge is useless, because it already has very high %increased damage.
It has 100% base + 500% stats + 20% quality damage uncorrupted, adding +10% leads to 630/620= 1.6% more overall damage.
I'd rather keep the sockets flexible than take that damage.
Disfavor has only flat damage, and 20% increased from quality.
Adding another 10% leads to 130/120 = 8.3% more DpS.
So the 30% corruption is five times as good on Disfavor. :)
I like how, I answer the OP, you answer the OP, yet the ACTUAL answers to the thread get ignored.
He was asking about the 30% quality one to do, we explain that the axe is better, yet these people ignore that fact and keep going about Starforge.
Do people even read?
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Posté parGoremise#0232le 29 mars 2018 à 18:02:07
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j33bus a écrit :
starforge gives you more survivability, and is cheaper.
In a game like PoE, items tend to be cheaper than another because they are not as strong as the other. So I wouldn't really list this as an advantage. ;)
3.5 build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2299519
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Posté parPeterlerock#5171le 30 mars 2018 à 02:46:13
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Goremise a écrit :
I like how, I answer the OP, you answer the OP, yet the ACTUAL answers to the thread get ignored.
He was asking about the 30% quality one to do, we explain that the axe is better, yet these people ignore that fact and keep going about Starforge.
Do people even read?
Did you read the thread title, buddy?
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Would a pure phys cyclone build deal more damage with a 30% quality Disfavour or Starforge?
You have to be realistic about these things.
Logen Ninefingers
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Posté parBars#2689le 30 mars 2018 à 02:47:15
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