SSF - Divination cards rant

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MajmuneGru a écrit :

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The best way to SSF is to play a build that requires jack shit in terms of specific loot, then work out possible new character builds with what you have found once you get bored of or cap out your current character.

Sadly, that's quite the opposite of what PoE's reputation stands for. Game was popularized by the idea of being able to make anything you want, even it might not be super effective.

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MajmuneGru a écrit :

Divination cards are created for the sole purpose of deterministic farming.

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MajmuneGru a écrit :

OK, I am playing SSF and I have been farming merci Solaris for a few hours and seen none The Sun cards drop. I am starting to realize SSF is something everyone should experience at least once, or once in a while to see how unbalanced game can be.

Divination cards are created for the sole purpose of deterministic farming. Apparently, drop rate of a card that, when gathered 7 total, gives Rise of The Phoenix shield is not even close to reflect the value of the shield and its drop rate as an item itself.

There are probably thousands of shields on Legacy alone, and here I am playing my snow flake league trying to drop the fucking CARDS that give the item, and cannot be further away from my goal, still on 0.

Oh, and please introduce an item similar to Eye of Chayula that gives stun immunity, since there is not other way to get it than to chance it or drop it, not mentioning Jack in the Box.

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TheAnuhart a écrit :

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Cataca a écrit :

Div cards.

Deterministic farming has always been there for SSF.

In some cases div cards will be quicker than chancing.

If you reach Scriptorium map, you have far more chance at getting a Shav's from 'The Offering' (and less so 'The Aesthete') than chancing a Shav's. Doing both increases the chance, though.

Taste of Hate is a realistic farm from 'The Hunger' card, not from Phantasmagoria, but from Merciless The Harvest. Which also drops the 1 exalt card and has a real small chance of the two shav cards from her. Again upping the chance with chance orbs, but sapphire flask bases are rare.

In other cases div cards are hardly worth it.

Some uniques are not too rare and are on a common base, while the card for them is not exactly high drop rate and the zone undesirable. One shouldn't be put off by what is a bad deterministic farm via card because the deterministic farm via chancing white bases still exists.

In other cases there is no direct div card.

Just because there is no div card does not mean they are not deterministic farmed. Chance orbs are and always have been the primary SSF deterministic farm. In fact, the method gets better and better as more uniques are added. Why? Because periodically GGG up the chance that a drop rolls as unique, to accommodate the increasing pool of uniques. The more rando, shitty uniques that drop, the more chance orbs SSF players can generate.

Chance orb generation.

Unique, Rare, Magic, White = 5 chance orbs. Use the recipe, dynamically add bases to your filter for which you have a unique drop. Preemptively store rares of common unique bases. Add whatever base you want to chance to your filter.

Deterministic farming has never been better for SSF. If that doesn't sound like your cup of tea, if you think you should have more access to uniques, hit that button that takes you to shopping league.

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grepman a écrit :

I'm surprised you came around on div cards Anu. That's a great post. Chance orbs are a bit more scarce in new leagues tho, and in part due to Zana maps costing 3-4 chances a piece as well as main source of non drop scours; I'm constantly running out of chances even doing the recipe while chaos keeps on piling on in the inventory.

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TheAnuhart a écrit :

Just pointing out, exalts are farm-able now.

And for those who didn't know, so is Shavronne's Wrappings.

So is Taste of Hate.



In fact, the main method to farming exalts requires crafting your atlas for Vaults for both the 1 ex and 3 ex cards, the main method for farming Shav's requires running Scriptoriums for both Shav cards, which just happens to be 1 tier above vaults in the same block of the atlas, *lightbulb*?

This method requires back up as you won't 100% sustain Vaults SSF, back up in the form of running non-Vaults for currency and more Vaults, which you will get. Running maps which can drop Vaults or children of Vaults is best, such as Arsenal which also drops the 3 ex card and the 3 chaos card. Running <73 maps for items to turn regal recipe into chaos recipe to Zana your Vaults, The Harvest in A4 will get these while also dropping the 1 ex card, both Shav cards AND the fucking ToH card.

Been using this method with great success recently.

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TheAnuhart a écrit :

Taste of Hate is a realistic farm from 'The Hunger' card, not from Phantasmagoria, but from Merciless The Harvest.

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TheAnuhart a écrit :

I might have overlooked how good the Harvest zone is originally. But I love that zone now.

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grepman a écrit :

Chance orbs are a bit more scarce in new leagues tho, and in part due to Zana maps costing 3-4 chances a piece as well as main source of non drop scours; I'm constantly running out of chances even doing the recipe while chaos keeps on piling on in the inventory.