Faster level 100 + ladder improvements = more and longer joy

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elwindakos a écrit :

I just saw your edit.So you saying D3's pointless endless game progression as knows as infinite GR's is a good thing?I am out of here,make your points being heard,i wont be bother posting in this thread again

Greater Rifts vs. Greater Maps - Rifts at least change and are accessible.

So, would you enjoy the game more playing a lvl 100 character? Because when you are at 100, what is there to strive for except loot?
You can have the same at level 90, 95, whatever? Progress is slow, but faster than at level 100, where there is no progress.
OK, you don't have the shiny 100, but for playing and enjoying the game, you don't need it.
Except if your sole goal for the game is to reach level 100 - but then, if it is so easy and fast to do that, would it really be a goal worth playing for?

WTF
Leveling to 100 should be harder not easier !!!

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AdFinitum a écrit :

The temp / challenge league ladder only shows who got to level 100 first in a league

It also shows that there is currently 189 x Level 100's as of this post with 5 weeks left to the league and you want to make it even easier? You do know Standard only has 697 x Level 100's in the ENTIRETY of the Ladder's Existence yeah? What a joke.

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StDrakeX a écrit :

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AdFinitum a écrit :

The temp / challenge league ladder only shows who got to level 100 first in a league

It also shows that there is currently 189 x Level 100's as of this post with 5 weeks left to the league and you want to make it even easier? You do know Standard only has 697 x Level 100's in the ENTIRETY of the Ladder's Existence yeah? What a joke.

Only less than 700 people in standard actually were interested to play this game to its bitter masochistic end over several years ? Thats sad. A game not worth playing till the end - fully compliant with my experience and a good time to finally stop playing.

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Mikrotherion a écrit :

So, would you enjoy the game more playing a lvl 100 character? Because when you are at 100, what is there to strive for except loot?
You can have the same at level 90, 95, whatever? Progress is slow, but faster than at level 100, where there is no progress.
OK, you don't have the shiny 100, but for playing and enjoying the game, you don't need it.
Except if your sole goal for the game is to reach level 100 - but then, if it is so easy and fast to do that, would it really be a goal worth playing for?

Yeah I had the stupid thought that a game's content should be entertaining on its own and that players would play it for that not for a carrot named level 100. But if the game is boring in your eyes once you reach level 100 I would say its a bad game and the long time to get to level 100 is just there to distract people from realizing just that.

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AdFinitum a écrit :

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I_NO a écrit :

... if you truly desire for 100 be prepared to enter hell.

So you agree that levelling from 90 to 100 is not enjoyable - but rather masochistic ?

It is not meant to be easy (which it is at the moment - way to easy. Hope it becomes harder, not easier). It is not meant to be "enjoyable". It is meant to be a challenge and the fun or the enjoyment is defeating that challenge.

What you are essentially asking for is a further lowering the standards PoE and making the game less challenging and thus less fun.

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Frankenberry a écrit :

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AdFinitum a écrit :

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I_NO a écrit :

... if you truly desire for 100 be prepared to enter hell.

So you agree that levelling from 90 to 100 is not enjoyable - but rather masochistic ?

It is not meant to be easy (which it is at the moment - way to easy. Hope it becomes harder, not easier). It is not meant to be "enjoyable". It is meant to be a challenge and the fun or the enjoyment is defeating that challenge.

What you are essentially asking for is a further lowering the standards PoE and making the game less challenging and thus less fun.

Grinding maps isnt challenging. No one does it because it is stupid and boring.

A well defined max level that is obtainable on the other hand would allow for true and challenging end game content to be created.

Diablo 3 does have way better endgame in a way of "easily Accessible Red Maps" that changes and "infinite character development" after yo maxed out your level in the way of PLevel.

But you are not suppose to mention anything positive about Diablo in this forum.

D3 allows 1 huge character development and many people actually have a few "mains" in that game, while PoE is designed around rerolling and redo the same act over and over and over and over and over... and then pray to rng god for some red maps.

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AdFinitum a écrit :

Grinding maps isnt challenging. No one does it because it is stupid and boring.

A well defined max level that is obtainable on the other hand would allow for true and challenging end game content to be created.

You misunderstand - by your definition a challenge is difficult or requires a certain skill set or whatever. That is not what ARPG's are about. If you want that play SC or a MOBA or shooter. A challenge within an ARPG is a goal. "I want to reach lvl X". "I want to get a very expensive item". Or if you are more of a casual player "I want to kill normal Atziri" or whatever. You set your own goals and play towards them.

What you are asking for is not in alignment with the whole philosophy of PoE. It is a suggestion that would be ruining the game permanently. I would for sure stop playing.

Also those last 5 passive points and those 60 extra hp (difference between lvl 95 and 100) are not making any real difference in character performance. GGG can perfectly fine create good endgame content without every being level 100.

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I_NO a écrit :

100 was never meant to be achievable if you truly desire for 100 be prepared to enter hell.

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