Commentary on Micro-transaction Pricing

Had VISA since i was 12years old.

No fee on it, works just as every other VISA there is.


Either you switch bank/country and stop bitching or simply:

DO NOT BUY THINGS! - THEY DO NOT IMPOWER YOU IN ANY KIND OF WAY.


You are NOT forced to buy anything from the shop.

It's a luxery not everyone bothers with / can not pay for.




Stop this crying already!

Since all the microtransactions except the extra stash tabs and character slots are totally useless I don't care how much they cost. Let the people who wants to see some glowing pixels on their screen pay $1000 for them if they so like, doesn't affect me.

Although it would be nice if people spent their money on more worthwhile things, but if it wasn't for glowy weapons for 20+ bucks they'd probably throw their money away on some other useless crap anyway.

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Ooshkii a écrit :

As of yet so far, I have balked at the idea of putting money into PoE on the basis that I get so little back from it.

This is the statement where you lost me.

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Quentym a écrit :

so before i read your wall of text:
do you have a degree in economics or do you run a f2p game by yourself?
or is this just another noob opinion from a person who thinks about microtransactions on their daily toilet time?

Allow me to pose a question to you. Do you know me or do you just make blind assumptions based on the fact that you believe one cannot logic their way through an issue. In any case, I have neither a degree in economics, nor have I run a free to play game with a microtransaction model, but I did co-own a for-profit minecraft server for a good year before I got out to do other things, and I have set up a real business with real investors and real profit/loss margins. So I would say that I might know a thing or two.

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Ooshkii a écrit :

First, please cite quotes correctly. Above you have me quoted as saying something that someone else did.

Fixed, to my defense you did quote the same thing and then you said:
"This right here is exactly the point I am trying to make in all of this." ;)

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Ooshkii a écrit :

I am talking about the price of everything.

The thing is, you're not talking about the price of everything.
You're only talking about the expensive stuff and immediately dismissing anything cheaper as 'stuff nobody wants' while you actually mean 'stuff I don't want'.

Your premise is wrong, people don't usually choose to not buy any car at all just because they can't afford a Ferrari.

While it would be nice if you choose to support the game within your means, you don't have to, but your arguing for removal of pricier pets for people with more means to spend to show their support of the game just doesn't make financial sense.

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Tzaina a écrit :

Had VISA since i was 12years old.

No fee on it, works just as every other VISA there is.


Either you switch bank/country and stop bitching or simply:

DO NOT BUY THINGS! - THEY DO NOT IMPOWER YOU IN ANY KIND OF WAY.


You are NOT forced to buy anything from the shop.

It's a luxery not everyone bothers with / can not pay for.




Stop this crying already!

see

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Ooshkii a écrit :

This right here is exactly the point I am trying to make in all of this. Yes, there are people who will buy the stuff that is out there. No, nobody is forcing you to buy it and there is no loss of power opportunity in game for not buying something. But, at the end of it all, if not enough people are buying because they feel that the prices are unreasonable, then the game could tank. At the very least, the game wont be producing GGG money at its max potential.

also, I was refering to retail charges, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interchange_fee

I don't see how the prices are wrong. I wanted to buy a scorpion pet and I looked at the prices and the diffrent looks and bought the one I thought looked good and had a price that I was willing to pay.

I like that they have some very expensive stuff that not everyone going to run around with.

Also I no idea what game you playing but in all towns I been in most playes have least one if the weapon effects or the helm effects so seems most buying something.

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Ooshkii a écrit :

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valarias a écrit :

im confused.

Does this cash shop sell upgrade or game breaking items?
Because it seems to me you have an entitlement issue, you are not required to spend a dime on this game and yet are mad they are trying to make a living in a morally unquestionable way?

f--- you sir,
f--- you with biggest pointiest sword one can find.

Actually, I don't feel entitled to anything (I am not asking for them to give me anything. Hell, I could go back to playing through all three of the TES games that I just got and not give a second thought about it), but the beauty of a market economy is that with entertainment industries, the consumer does not need the producer, but rather vice-versa. My concern is that there are more people like myself out there than there are people like yourself, because if I'm right, either they start dropping prices or GGG looks for new jobs.

Edit: Or I could go back to TL2 now that it has been picked up by a big modding group.

There aren't.

Go ahead, if you feel the need to complain about non-gameplay altering cash shop items no one wants you here.

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The thing is, you're not talking about the price of everything.
You're only talking about the expensive stuff and immediately dismissing anything cheaper as 'stuff nobody wants' while you actually mean 'stuff I don't want'.

Your premise is wrong, people don't usually choose to not buy any car at all just because they can't afford a Ferrari.

While it would be nice if you choose to support the game within your means, you don't have to, but your arguing for removal of pricier pets for people with more means to spend to show their support of the game just doesn't make financial sense.

The first bit is a fair criticism of my position, but I believe that I can account of it with this. I dont dismiss the cheap stuff because it is cheap. I dismiss it because the price of the cheap stuff is about the price I would be willing to pay for what is currently the expensive stuff (not because it is expensive but because colossal weta looks like it should reasonably be $5, and some sort of Evil, necromatic seething, plays a 2 sec sound clip when you kill a yellow or orange mob, specter should be in the 30$-40$ range.)

The second bit, you once again set up a strawman of my argument. Yes, if someone doesn't have the money or inclination to buy a Ferrari, they then don't hold out until they get one, but pets and weapon effects are not essential parts of everyday life. You can't compare the purchase patterns of essential and non-essential goods (in this case transportation as a whole is the essential good)

The final bit, I don't recall ever calling for the removal of the pricy pets, and have numerous times said that good for GGG in that they found people waiting to hand over globs of money. I am just saying that if the price structure remains as it is, I believe that they better get used to that sole source of income, because I'm just not seeing it. As always, then again, I could be wrong.

diamond supporters need to dump points before GGG makes money.