remove trading from priority and focus thing that people actually care about:fun

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SalamiHaze#9389 a écrit :
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TOP_BOMJIK#4977 a écrit :


?????????????? giving player proper scaling in loot and crafting materials without needing to interact with trade is poe= diablo 4????


What does proper scaling mean?

You haven`t played diablo 4.
Your statements about diablo 2 are simply untrue.
You haven`t mentioned last epoch which has a system directly referring to Your case.

What makes You think Your definition of proper is proper or even better than this topic contributors?

GGG has tons of raw data to base their decision off. Yet You seem to ignore that completely.

Couple of clearly more experienced players tried to gently explain what is wrong with Your statements and attitude toward goals/chase/carrot. Yet You seem to ignore that completely.

Sorry pal but right now seems like your goal is to post farm with gib me more loot attitude. I sincerely suggest You to try LE/Diablo4 because they seem to suit You and Your 5 friends more. Maybe go back to diablo2 and try to rethink those non-miserable loot tables chasing after enigma or any high rune related runeword. Great update was released couple of days ago.

OR

since You have that much time to answer for each and every post separately, maybe watch some videos improving Your game knowledge. Seriously, even some shorts during taking shit can be gamechangers for Your SSF journey/general game knowledge.

I find hilarious how people without a job justify GGG behaviour on making PoE2 a mobile-like game.
The end of the chain for this are mechanics in which you will have to wait actually hours to use something or getting X crafting materials... if not the case already without players knowing.

You might be a retired man playing all day or just living at parents' house.
one of the nice things about POE is that you can spend so many hours playing it though, other games you can complete in 24 hours and that's about all you'll get out of it for the money.

in POE I want 4 different characters all sorceress, so i can explore each build for each elemental and hybrid to experiment with new things. and that goes for every class type. If they add more skills, that's just more replayability.

I spent over a decade playing starcraft 2 and grew up playing brood war.
Dernière édition par TwitchGLHFsport#2155, le 17 févr. 2026 à 05:11:49
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ThreeBelowZero#2968 a écrit :
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SalamiHaze#9389 a écrit :
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TOP_BOMJIK#4977 a écrit :


?????????????? giving player proper scaling in loot and crafting materials without needing to interact with trade is poe= diablo 4????


What does proper scaling mean?

You haven`t played diablo 4.
Your statements about diablo 2 are simply untrue.
You haven`t mentioned last epoch which has a system directly referring to Your case.

What makes You think Your definition of proper is proper or even better than this topic contributors?

GGG has tons of raw data to base their decision off. Yet You seem to ignore that completely.

Couple of clearly more experienced players tried to gently explain what is wrong with Your statements and attitude toward goals/chase/carrot. Yet You seem to ignore that completely.

Sorry pal but right now seems like your goal is to post farm with gib me more loot attitude. I sincerely suggest You to try LE/Diablo4 because they seem to suit You and Your 5 friends more. Maybe go back to diablo2 and try to rethink those non-miserable loot tables chasing after enigma or any high rune related runeword. Great update was released couple of days ago.

OR

since You have that much time to answer for each and every post separately, maybe watch some videos improving Your game knowledge. Seriously, even some shorts during taking shit can be gamechangers for Your SSF journey/general game knowledge.

I find hilarious how people without a job justify GGG behaviour on making PoE2 a mobile-like game.
The end of the chain for this are mechanics in which you will have to wait actually hours to use something or getting X crafting materials... if not the case already without players knowing.

You might be a retired man playing all day or just living at parents' house.


Oh no, someone called me jobless and living with parents. He must be right then. GGG please increase all drops RIGHT NOW. We want to end season in two days and make any pinnacle activity meaningless because that`s the only opinion people with jobs and families can have.

Hilarious.
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ThreeBelowZero#2968 a écrit :
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SalamiHaze#9389 a écrit :
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TOP_BOMJIK#4977 a écrit :


?????????????? giving player proper scaling in loot and crafting materials without needing to interact with trade is poe= diablo 4????


What does proper scaling mean?

You haven`t played diablo 4.
Your statements about diablo 2 are simply untrue.
You haven`t mentioned last epoch which has a system directly referring to Your case.

What makes You think Your definition of proper is proper or even better than this topic contributors?

GGG has tons of raw data to base their decision off. Yet You seem to ignore that completely.

Couple of clearly more experienced players tried to gently explain what is wrong with Your statements and attitude toward goals/chase/carrot. Yet You seem to ignore that completely.

Sorry pal but right now seems like your goal is to post farm with gib me more loot attitude. I sincerely suggest You to try LE/Diablo4 because they seem to suit You and Your 5 friends more. Maybe go back to diablo2 and try to rethink those non-miserable loot tables chasing after enigma or any high rune related runeword. Great update was released couple of days ago.

OR

since You have that much time to answer for each and every post separately, maybe watch some videos improving Your game knowledge. Seriously, even some shorts during taking shit can be gamechangers for Your SSF journey/general game knowledge.

I find hilarious how people without a job justify GGG behaviour on making PoE2 a mobile-like game.
The end of the chain for this are mechanics in which you will have to wait actually hours to use something or getting X crafting materials... if not the case already without players knowing.

You might be a retired man playing all day or just living at parents' house.


Mobile game is exactly what this post is asking for lol
Dernière édition par iHiems#0168, le 17 févr. 2026 à 08:20:22
I actually only care about trade
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iHiems#0168 a écrit :
My fun is trade


Me too..but i want taxes in every trade especially in high prices becouse f...s destroying marketplace.
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Darosius#3984 a écrit :
no trade - easy crafting = go and play dead d4 and dead last epoch

long term rank1 ARGP = play poe1 and poe2.

simple.

trade is important


no one asks for easy crafting

people want doable trading


longterm argp??? yet poe 1 and 2 bleeds players when league ends because trade is only thing we have. to be sucessfull poe need reasonable rates for craft material drops and general drop rate that reflect challenge of the enemy or trial

trade can exist easily, but it ggg did fatal mistake in interweaving in to the game as required thing to progress majorly in late game
Dernière édition par TOP_BOMJIK#4977, le 17 févr. 2026 à 22:16:32
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one of the nice things about POE is that you can spend so many hours playing it though, other games you can complete in 24 hours and that's about all you'll get out of it for the money.

in POE I want 4 different characters all sorceress, so i can explore each build for each elemental and hybrid to experiment with new things. and that goes for every class type. If they add more skills, that's just more replayability.

I spent over a decade playing starcraft 2 and grew up playing brood war.


we need not just more skill, more build diversity, realistic rates for drops (currency uniques and such) and full trash unique rework to allow for more cool builds
Spoiler
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SalamiHaze#9389 a écrit :
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ThreeBelowZero#2968 a écrit :
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SalamiHaze#9389 a écrit :


What does proper scaling mean?

You haven`t played diablo 4.
Your statements about diablo 2 are simply untrue.
You haven`t mentioned last epoch which has a system directly referring to Your case.

What makes You think Your definition of proper is proper or even better than this topic contributors?

GGG has tons of raw data to base their decision off. Yet You seem to ignore that completely.

Couple of clearly more experienced players tried to gently explain what is wrong with Your statements and attitude toward goals/chase/carrot. Yet You seem to ignore that completely.

Sorry pal but right now seems like your goal is to post farm with gib me more loot attitude. I sincerely suggest You to try LE/Diablo4 because they seem to suit You and Your 5 friends more. Maybe go back to diablo2 and try to rethink those non-miserable loot tables chasing after enigma or any high rune related runeword. Great update was released couple of days ago.

OR

since You have that much time to answer for each and every post separately, maybe watch some videos improving Your game knowledge. Seriously, even some shorts during taking shit can be gamechangers for Your SSF journey/general game knowledge.

I find hilarious how people without a job justify GGG behaviour on making PoE2 a mobile-like game.
The end of the chain for this are mechanics in which you will have to wait actually hours to use something or getting X crafting materials... if not the case already without players knowing.

You might be a retired man playing all day or just living at parents' house.


Oh no, someone called me jobless and living with parents. He must be right then. GGG please increase all drops RIGHT NOW. We want to end season in two days and make any pinnacle activity meaningless because that`s the only opinion people with jobs and families can have.

Hilarious.


yall trader heads take this to the extreme... only because you dont want your stuff on sell to be much cheaper only because players are now can actually get some craft materials to at least try crafting 2-3 items per map (mostly regals and ex)

league economy get ruined in a week by rmt traders,tryhards, dupers and streamears anyway
Dernière édition par TOP_BOMJIK#4977, le 17 févr. 2026 à 22:25:16
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2836742981#3689 a écrit :
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sirgijoe#9059 a écrit :
Everything the OP said is valid. Can you play without trade? Yep, but 90 percent of the players dont want that grind.

The average player gets 2 hours of play time a day. This game is tuned for People that play far more like streamers and try hards. This is why players counts dropped. People are literally playing for weeks just to get one upgrade. Thats not a feel good experience.

I max out every season because im retired and can play all day, but all my friends left for other games long ago for the reason the OP said. So i'll eventually follow because soloing sucks


Agree with OP and same here. Most of my IRL friends have left cause all busy with jobs and family. This game requires massive amount of time and knowledge. This will be my last league as well, I realized how good it feels to actually get loot and items you need and about to hit level 100. Actually had a mirror drop. But I won't play in future poverty leagues. And also campaign is too slow and a slog and then getting atlas points again, it's just torture. You have to find nexuses that is all RNG, then cleanse for atlas points and also find all citadels so that you can kill arbiter where there is massive power hidden behind (crafting tablets). Too much RNG nd no player agency is not fun.


+1

Mine aswell, gifted keys, and they all get scared away, the grind, the blatant disrespect of player time, to make any meaningful progress takes 200+ hours a league, sorry, your average player doesn't have that, and that's what makes D4 so appealing to the average player, It seems challenging at first, progression is alot quicker, finding gear is substantially easier and you can actually pick and choose mods to add, temper, masterwork, have potential to get even higher roles with ancestral equipment, and now sanctifying! and it can all be done in less then 100 hours per season(or you can push it in torment 4 and uber bosses+seasonal content and get even more hours of fun)!!!!!!
Gives me even more time and makes me want to try other classes and other builds farm for more gear, In POE2, I don't want to do that all over again after spending 200+ hours just to see some meaningful progress on 1 build
Dernière édition par Jobama#9902, le 17 févr. 2026 à 22:29:39

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