Merchant tab is NOT an upgrade.

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Kerchunk#7797 a écrit :

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DevourerAdol#4490 a écrit :

How am what I saying misinformation? You just said yourself it's a conversion, which is clearly not an upgrade, going by definition.

Yeah so this isn't actually how words work. Things can be more than one thing. Nothing in the definitions of "upgrade" and "convert" suggest they are mutually exclusive. If I convert something and in the process it becomes more useful or valuable to me, then I have also upgraded it.

Personally, I had far more Premium Tabs then I needed for storage, so converting a few to Market Tabs was absolutely an upgrade. If the Premium Tab you converted was more valuable to you than the Market Tab then sure, it wasn't an upgrade for you. Setting aside the obvious question of why you would convert the tab if you didn't personally consider it an upgrade, it's irrelevant because the tabs cost the same amount. You can just buy another Premium Tab and you will be in the same position as if you had never converted.

And anyone suggesting they "could have just" implemented the market features on top of the existing storage infrastructure will necessarily be someone who has never written a line of code in their lives let alone contributed to a significant project. The Market Tabs are fundamentally different entities with all sorts of additional triggers and logic attached. It would have been far more complicated from both a user interface and a backend logic and data management perspective. Creating a separate, unique tab to encapsulate these features is a no-brainer.

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Innuendos#5095 a écrit :

"My argument is that premium stash tabs are as much about storage as they are about selling"

thats you

"Premium stash tabs can be listed as public, allowing them to be listed on the trade site and community tools."

thats the poe site shop description of a premium stash tab.

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the purpose of a premium stash tab, has, and always has been, about trade. making the tab Public, in order to get pms, offers, and to trade said items in the tab. even to the point of changing the color, and name, for easy searching/sorting.

if you just wanted another tab for storage, you can buy the regular tabs, which is what the regular tabs purpose is. extra storage.

premium tab, is about selling. a tab designed to be made public and posted on the trade site, for trade.


you are wrong.
100%.
objectively.

you can feel how you wanna feel... all you want. your feelings. are wrong.

and for someone who is argue'n with the sky about the number of clouds.... you seem to agree with alot of people who are literally, telling you that you are wrong. and why.

make it make sense.

if you... are not using premium tabs to sell. you overpaid for a regular stash tab. and are not using the premium tab for its designed purpose. and are... a bad consumer. (good for ggg. as you overpaid for something and arent using it for its designed purpose)

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Innuendos#5095 a écrit :

out of context....

every single post of mine is responding to your own quoted words.

they are in context. your are just wrong. plain for everyone to see.

just because you want to use the tabs in unintended ways, doesnt make you right.

it makes you wrong still.

what makes you SUPER wrong, is you can still use the merchant tab, for your UNINTEDED ways in store'n the items you want to for a price no one will buy them for.. effectively, storing the item.

you want a premium tab to do what you want with. cool. have at it. ive said that now twice. NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO UPGRADE.

to say the merchant tab isnt an upgrade. is a false statement. it 100% objectively is.
to say there is some wider context to why you are correct and that the previous sentence is wrong, is a false statement.

this isnt subjective. and it isnt MY words. its ggg's words son.

the tab ... is designed... to be made public and used for trading. not storage.

it CAN be used that way, but its not intended to do so. that is why is it MORE EXPENSIVE THEN THE REGULAR STASH TAB UPGRADES.

you want your cake and to eat it too, with sprinkles and frosting. and thats fine.

dont take a turd on everyones elses cake, just because it isnt your flavour.

you are wrong.
take the L.

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Innuendos#5095 a écrit :

ya. no kidding.

go back to googling words the rest of us learned the definitions to when we were 6.

the merchant tab is an upgrade, and very likely, the best thing to happen to this franchise, ever to date. and something the community as a whole, asked for, for over 10 years.

its probably the one thing other than the currency exchange, that has gotten almost total widespread, community acclaim, period. end of statement.

but there is always that one guy..

that one guy who cannot accept it.

i hope you find peace sir.
i really do.

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Innuendos#5095 a écrit :

ya. no kidding.

go back to googling words the rest of us learned the definitions to when we were 6.

the merchant tab is an upgrade, and very likely, the best thing to happen to this franchise, ever to date. and something the community as a whole, asked for, for over 10 years.

its probably the one thing other than the currency exchange, that has gotten almost total widespread, community acclaim, period. end of statement.

but there is always that one guy..

that one guy who cannot accept it.

i hope you find peace sir.
i really do.

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MathiasSoul#7397 a écrit :

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Innuendos#5095 a écrit :

ya. no kidding.

go back to googling words the rest of us learned the definitions to when we were 6.

the merchant tab is an upgrade, and very likely, the best thing to happen to this franchise, ever to date. and something the community as a whole, asked for, for over 10 years.

its probably the one thing other than the currency exchange, that has gotten almost total widespread, community acclaim, period. end of statement.

but there is always that one guy..

that one guy who cannot accept it.

i hope you find peace sir.
i really do.

I think your argument holds weight in that in terms of raw selling power, the merchant tab is fantastic. Async trade will always be superior to any other form of trade. Waking up to currency feels great.

That said, I don't think that everything about what Devourer said should be discredited as nonsense and I believe ego's playing a bit of a part here for you. It seems like you're not the one at peace, my friend.

Specifically the claims from Devourer that hold merit:

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No access to your tabs until act 4.

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Only accessible in hideout.

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Not available in PoE 1, effectively removing content you have payed for.

These are very serious quality of life downsides, having incredibly limited storage during your campaign run through (which is already considered a slog by many) would be really detrimental to one's league start. The choice is either spend more money or have no storage until Act 4, where you're then allocating tabs to list items for a mirror. Adding another 3 seconds to time spent storing EACH item, and then extra loading screens on top of that, load to town on portal, type /hideout, enjoy another loading screen, go to town again, take portal back.

^--- Sounds like dogshit to go through for a prolonged period, anyone going through that would clearly not feel "Upgraded" and it would be wrong to fault them for feeling that way, especially since so many were in fact blindsided by not being able to utilise them until Act 4

Since we don't know for sure that GGG will be switching these to immediately accessible, the complaint is valid and ought to be voiced just to make sure that eventually they do make immediate access a thing and allow for a type of "Buyer's Remorse" factor