The GGG / TenCent "Vision" Needs Glasses. (Video Act 3 Cruel Rootdredge v Cold Huntress)

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Hyperspacing#5593 a écrit :

This all makes sense. Now I know why you really dislike POE 2...you are just really bad mechanically for this type of game. 100% POE 1 is going to be more your speed.


As I say to all no-content flamers like you, just post your own video showing your godly gaming skills. Make sure you include your passive tree, gems and SSF gear in one take so we know you aren't bringing a level 90 or supercharged gear into the zone. Then just show us all how wrong we are. Let me know the URL and I will be happy to give you a view. If you don't then I will just dismiss your post as pointless flaming. You have this chance to prove what a god you are. Lets see it.

The problem is 90% of players not playing a couple builds (builds that will be nerfed to death on 0.3.0 like lightning spear) agree with me. The numbers are clear and unequivocal. All you are doing is flaming others and providing no proof. I don't think you will post a video because I know for a fact you would have to admit, "Ok Kraythax I admit you are right, without screen clear skills this sucks." I am pretty sure you would rather the game be cancelled than admit that.
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Kraythax#2592 a écrit :
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Hyperspacing#5593 a écrit :

This all makes sense. Now I know why you really dislike POE 2...you are just really bad mechanically for this type of game. 100% POE 1 is going to be more your speed.


As I say to all no-content flamers like you, just post your own video showing your godly gaming skills. Make sure you include your passive tree, gems and SSF gear in one take so we know you aren't bringing a level 90 or supercharged gear into the zone. Then just show us all how wrong we are. Let me know the URL and I will be happy to give you a view. If you don't then I will just dismiss your post as pointless flaming. You have this chance to prove what a god you are. Lets see it.

The problem is 90% of players not playing a couple builds (builds that will be nerfed to death on 0.3.0 like lightning spear) agree with me. The numbers are clear and unequivocal. All you are doing is flaming others and providing no proof. I don't think you will post a video because I know for a fact you would have to admit, "Ok Kraythax I admit you are right, without screen clear skills this sucks." I am pretty sure you would rather the game be cancelled than admit that.



That is a really long winded way for you to dismiss that you are objectively just mechanically bad at the game. Instead, you spin this web of dismissals instead of doing self reflection. If you are dying that many times its not the game mate...its you.

No where did I say I was "godly" in the game. I'm just not as bad as you are hence why I actually enjoy the game. I did however, rack up close to 300 deaths so far this league but thats ok. Im playing a home brew build and dying is part of the process.

No the numbers are not "clear and unequivocal". You keep using peak players and completely disregarding the fact that POE 1 has never in its 10 year history put up these numbers and even on POE 2 worse day...it still is what POE 1 has averaged for 8+ years. Yet, I bet you will defend that POE 1 is a better game and completely disregard the numbers cause POE 1 took no mechanical skill what-so-ever and you could shine.

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Again, is impossible because you are barely reactive, you literally showed it in your video, you stood still or dashed into them, are you framing personal lack of attention to your surroundings (in game) as a game issue?


Analyzing a video frame by frame is not something you can do in the moment but like I said, you just show us how it is done. Still eagerly waiting your clinic on why 90% of the player base is full of it. (That would be the 90% that said "heck with this" and quit)

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Someone else already provided you with some tips to make your build better, which invalidates your claim that you had the best obtainable damage at that level, even in a non-trade scenario. You dismissed those tips and, again, demanded a video to prove it.


I integrated their tips, went back and fought the boss with their tips. Their tips made it worse. I addressed why it made it worse. I addressed that having enough int to run a Sorc herald seriously impacts your survivability and damage because you cant run wind dancer and the charger at once. I guess you didnt read. I even provided a video. Too busy to watch? LOL

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Here, you demand a video of proof again, dismissing the causes I provided for your deaths, have you even taken into consideration that what I said are actually the reasons of your deaths?


Sure there are deaths I could have avoided. Never claimed I was a gamer god. Cull the Weak has iffy targeting and obviously dropped me in the middle of some exploding guys. But then 90% of the player base wont be gamer gods either. They will be normal people like me. People who make mistakes, people without your god like gaming reflexes and super sharp acumen.

There is one thing I did notice though. You didnt post a video. Hmm. OBS Studio is free, a youtube channel is free. No video? Hmm.

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With how you choose to interact with people here seems that you are not up to discussions on potential game issues, bugs, or some other things, but rather you are trying to impose your point of view.


Meh, some flamers attack me. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. They are loud and mean but they don't accomplish anything except bumping my threads. Thanks for that by the way. The fact that they have lost 95% of players since EA launch sort of shows that I am right and you are in the minority. You know the funny part? FoF Huntress isn't even the worst of the combos. Anything with a mace is too horrible for even me to struggle through playing it.

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Someone came with some build changes, I came with death causes, you dismissed them, nor me nor the other person is bound to provide you with those "proof videos", and even if we actually (or I) provide them, will you honestly even take them into account and "change" or reason? I am inclined that you won't.


I dismissed nothing. I suggested you provide a video showing us all how it is done. You haven't provided that video. That seriously impacts your credibility. I am sure with your godlike gamer skills you could get there in 20 minutes or something from starting a new char. Just show us how its done.

If you don't, then all you are doing is flaming without a shred of proof to back yourself up. Well that and bumping my threads. Thanks again. You do realize you arent my target audience right? Right? .... Oh well. You think on that a bit.
I don't understand why there is toxicity in this thread.

To the OP, based on the footage of your gameplay, I don't think you are aware of the mechanics of the boss fight.
When the boss does an aoe slam on the ground, he detonates his adds caught in the area causing a chain reaction.

Honestly, if you were aware of this, I think you would have come out on top.


But the other attacks form the boss can be parried. When he throws the projectiles and when he does it staff strike. For this boss in particular, fang spear is not an ideal choice obviously. You could swap to other skills that clear the ads better, but still had you just avoided the exploding minions which happens only after he slams, I think you would have been fine.
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Kraythax#2592 a écrit :
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Again, is impossible because you are barely reactive, you literally showed it in your video, you stood still or dashed into them, are you framing personal lack of attention to your surroundings (in game) as a game issue?


Analyzing a video frame by frame is not something you can do in the moment but like I said, you just show us how it is done. Still eagerly waiting your clinic on why 90% of the player base is full of it. (That would be the 90% that said "heck with this" and quit)

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Someone else already provided you with some tips to make your build better, which invalidates your claim that you had the best obtainable damage at that level, even in a non-trade scenario. You dismissed those tips and, again, demanded a video to prove it.


I integrated their tips, went back and fought the boss with their tips. Their tips made it worse. I addressed why it made it worse. I addressed that having enough int to run a Sorc herald seriously impacts your survivability and damage because you cant run wind dancer and the charger at once. I guess you didnt read. I even provided a video. Too busy to watch? LOL

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Here, you demand a video of proof again, dismissing the causes I provided for your deaths, have you even taken into consideration that what I said are actually the reasons of your deaths?


Sure there are deaths I could have avoided. Never claimed I was a gamer god. Cull the Weak has iffy targeting and obviously dropped me in the middle of some exploding guys. But then 90% of the player base wont be gamer gods either. They will be normal people like me. People who make mistakes, people without your god like gaming reflexes and super sharp acumen.

There is one thing I did notice though. You didnt post a video. Hmm. OBS Studio is free, a youtube channel is free. No video? Hmm.

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With how you choose to interact with people here seems that you are not up to discussions on potential game issues, bugs, or some other things, but rather you are trying to impose your point of view.


Meh, some flamers attack me. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. They are loud and mean but they don't accomplish anything except bumping my threads. Thanks for that by the way. The fact that they have lost 95% of players since EA launch sort of shows that I am right and you are in the minority. You know the funny part? FoF Huntress isn't even the worst of the combos. Anything with a mace is too horrible for even me to struggle through playing it.

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Someone came with some build changes, I came with death causes, you dismissed them, nor me nor the other person is bound to provide you with those "proof videos", and even if we actually (or I) provide them, will you honestly even take them into account and "change" or reason? I am inclined that you won't.


I dismissed nothing. I suggested you provide a video showing us all how it is done. You haven't provided that video. That seriously impacts your credibility. I am sure with your godlike gamer skills you could get there in 20 minutes or something from starting a new char. Just show us how its done.

If you don't, then all you are doing is flaming without a shred of proof to back yourself up. Well that and bumping my threads. Thanks again. You do realize you arent my target audience right? Right? .... Oh well. You think on that a bit.


If it was a single moment, yes, that would be valid, but you did same thing in multiple instances, that's not "you cannot do that in that moment", you actively chose a playstyle that doesn't benefit you.

I was talking about Elena's tips, not the sole comment with socketing the herald. Is it logical to you to just socket a gem and suddenly to beat everything? They took their time to give info on multiple aspects, gem synergies + items + passive tree, which you didn't say anything about.

It does bother you, because you take any form of criticism even when people actually provide you explanations and tips as personal attacks and then you throw words like: "god gamer", "god like gaming reflexes", "super sharp acumen".

Pushing same thing with video proofing, it serves nothing because if I would come with it you can, as well, just say it doesn't apply to that 90% of player base you are talking about and frame it as "a matter of experience/knowledge". And again, stating that a lack of video make the points invalid, are you even taking yourself seriously with such an argument? If that would be the case then anyone who doesn't, let's say stream, or post a video cannot provide feedback towards balancing.

I am reiterating, you didn't make this post to actually provide feedback and learn or try to fix the problems when presented with solutions, but to push your point of view and make it undeniable.
At the eve of the end
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Kraythax#2592 a écrit :
Your analysis is bonkers. When you are in the fight to see those cragws blending in with them and spot them to avoid them blowing up on you is nearly impossible. Since the whole arena had mobs, to avoid that is impossible. The build had as much damage as possible given the equipment available at that level without trade.


I tought his analysis was spot on.

1. The arena is full of mobs because your build deals zero damage
2. Claiming that this build had "as much damage as possible" is just a flat out lie. Ive done the campaign several times and it never looks anything remotely like this.

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Kraythax#2592 a écrit :

So its a skill issue huh? Lets see your URL to your video of this. Same core skills, show your level, you passive tree and your equipment in one cut or we will know you are full of it, being over leveled or over geared from what is possible; i.e. cheating because you don't want to admit you are wrong. If you don't then your arguments hold no merit. Run up a cold huntress, prove me wrong. For a gamer GOD like you that should be easy.


It 100% is a skill issue.
Your gameplay is below average and the bigger issue is that your build is trash and youve not taken advantage of any of the games mechanics to get gear upgrades.

Your hitting a white mob 6 times to kill it. Obviously there is something wrong here. But instead of trying to figure out whats wrong with your build that makes you barely able to kill a white mob, you go to a boss fight and then record it as some kind of "proof" that the game design is bad.
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Kraythax#2592 a écrit :
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Sheridan Pang#6587 a écrit :
so in what/where/how info you would have a conclusion that Tencent has anything to do with the game situation right now?


TenCent owns 100% of grinding gear games and has a long history of games that are only playable with MTX whales. Instead of making games with broad appeal they dont care if 95% quit so long as the rest of the whales spend thousands on MTX. To make that happen you have to have a game that is free but near unplayable as a free game.


POE2 doesnt fit this description.

Your talking about the type of gotcha games where they only need a tiny minority of people who spend tens of thousands of dollars on "gambling" for rare champions or whatever it might be in that game.

In POE2 this obviously doesnt work. If youve bought the early access then you immediately get the currency to buy the most essential stash tabs you need.
And even when they release new stash tabs they cost like 5$ and there obviously is a limit to how many stash tabs the game is gonna have.
This only leaves the games skins, which arent that expensive to start with and its not the same as gotcha games because realistically how many different skins for the same slot do you think people buy?

Your example just doesnt work for this game genre. People arent gonna spend tens of thousands of dollars for different skins and then not use 99% of them. This would only work if the skins cost 1k usd each.
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Kraythax#2592 a écrit :
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Nyon#6673 a écrit :
Maybe Im just being stupid but I dont really see what the problem in that video is?

Your build is doing literally zero damage and you are for some reason recording this to prove something?

Your being swarmed by mobs, is that not whats supposed to happen when your build is doing so low damage you cant kill anything?

Or were you expecting to play a zero dps build and have every boss just fall over at the sight of you?


I am guessing you play lightning spear? No no you dont understand. Its YOUR build that they want to get rid of. I am playing what they expect you to play with the interractions they put in. Glacial lance is a mild tickle without a frenzy charge. Fangs of frost does little unless you parry. The point was to show everyone THIS IS WHAT GGG WANTS.

If you have a build like lightning spear or some other corner case, they will nerf you to oblivion. They did t he same in the 0.2.0 patch. EVERY SINGLE meta build in that patch was rendered to be exactly this. You can still play spark but you wont do jack for damage.

The point of the post is that this is what they want. Its important to understand and read the whole OP.


Not that its relevant but im playing chaos lich actually.

And no your just wrong. Where is your evidence that this gameplay is how GGG wants you to play? It goes against any form of common sense.

This gameplay is not how the game is for the overwhelming majority of players.
People arent hitting a white mob 6 times to kill it, regardless if they play lightning spear or not.
I could litterally pick a skill gem at random and I guarantee you I could play it trough the campaign and not have to hit a white mob 6 times.

So whats more likely?
A) Everyone except yourself is playing the game wrong, your the only one playing the game the "correct" way that ggg wants you to and its terrible.
B) Your gameplay is bad, you have a bad build, your gearing choices have been terrible.
I see nothing bad in the video and nothing to indicate that cold huntress is what Tencent/GGG would consider meta/ideal.
People that saying its "skill issue", "bad build", "bad gear", just prove OP point that this game is a complete mess of action-combat wanna be.

A "skill issue" implies that the content should be cleared in reasonable amount of time, without having significant upgrades in gear before interacting with that content, with ALL TYPES of archetype.

A "bad build" "bad gear" implies that the game is more about gear and build rather than skill.

So which one is it ? Of course its build / gear and the "skill" that is needed is not how you play the fight sequence mostly, but rather the knowledge about the build and gear you are using.

With trade gear and obviously better skill gem, the boss will die in seconds without needing to know what its doing.

And this happens on all weapon skills and to an extent, ascendancies. Only a handful skill gems are worth enough the investment while the rest are just there as decoration. To determine the worthiness of skill gems, it will be measured based on speed / efficiency because that is the right way to play the game, since that is the only variable that yield quantifiable result : Divine per hour or time to clear maps + looting with juiced contents.

For sure that players can choose to play non-META, not fast and inefficient build. But don't be surprised when playing that kind of build doesn't get loot as much and as fast as META / Fast / Efficient build, and in result, have lower purchasing power in the market.

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