The real problem of XP LOSS.

one more thing bout 30th map wiping past progress. unless you're level97 (which i doubt since you're dying) and above (which ive never been in poe2 because its not worth it)

the only way you're to lose 30 maps worth of xp at low level is you're actually telling lies or not using omens

`Spent 2 mirrors on my build, but I'm only Level 98.` LOL
`From just quick sweep of your characters, toxic rain, golems .. sure, non meta... sure.` LOL
`What are divs?`
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LiMA6#0387 a écrit :


this game has survived for over a decade with xp loss, and that's enough proof there's no need for change here,


No it hasn't. POE1 and POE2 are different games.
Exp loss bad. It should just be deleted.
So in conclusion there are 3 categories of people thoughts about XP LOSS.

1. Those who want it to go away.
2. Those who want it to stay as it is.
3. Those who want it to stay but with different and more innovative way.

So why not ask Devs to give us a POLL?
The result will be critical for future actions.

Dernière édition par teobibu#1278, le 7 mai 2025 à 13:24:12
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teobibu#1278 a écrit :
So in conclusion there are 3 categories of people thoughts about XP LOSS.

1. Those who want to go away.
2. Those who wants to stay as it is.
3. Those who want to stay but with different and more innovative way.

So why not ask Devs to give us a POLL?
The result will be critical for future actions.




Please. I'm all for it. A Dev poll on this would be extremely useful and showing. Will set the perspective in place. I would not say a thing more about it if it turns out that those who want it gone are super minority.
Dernière édition par Kodavor#1200, le 7 mai 2025 à 13:26:43
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teobibu#1278 a écrit :
So in conclusion there are 3 categories of people thoughts about XP LOSS.

1. Those who want to go away.
2. Those who wants to stay as it is.
3. Those who want to stay but with different and more innovative way.

So why not ask Devs to give us a POLL?
The result will be critical for future actions.



Yep, they should just do an in-game poll or one in the website, and let the players vote on what to do. The results may be shocking.


The way to make everyone happy without even needing a poll though is to just put a slider in the settings menu that says "death penalties" and you can either have it at 0 or at increasing magnitudes. People that want to lose all their gear,levels,exp and time on death can enjoy that all they want, and people who want to have fun and play a normal game can enjoy that too. And everyone wins. Simple solution. I just don't understand why players can't be allowed to play and enjoy the game how they want to, instead of everyone being tunneled into a single bad gamemode.

I don't even understand the logic of having any kind of death penalty in a softcore mode but oh well. Usually in games SC is the mode where you just die and respawn and go on with whatever you wanna do, then any other modes add death penalties. It makes no sense for these hardcore mechanics to be forced upon softcore players.
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Kodavor#1200 a écrit :

Please. I'm all for it. A Dev poll on this would be extremely useful and showing. Will set the perspective in place. I would not say a thing more about it if it turns out that those who want it gone are super minority.


And, when it turns out that most would like to see it go, and the devs still say, 'nah, its stayin'...

Then what?

Personally, i fucking hate the penalty, BUT... its not exactly a new thing, so, i guess im just used to it. Only once, have i ever made 100 on POE1 across all these years. Generally, just get too damn bored after 92-95.
GGG - Why you no?
Dernière édition par JoannaDark#6252, le 7 mai 2025 à 13:31:49
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teobibu#1278 a écrit :
So in conclusion there are 3 categories of people thoughts about XP LOSS.

1. Those who want it to go away.
2. Those who want it to stay as it is.
3. Those who want it to stay but with different and more innovative way.

So why not ask Devs to give us a POLL?
The result will be critical for future actions.



They will never do that because 99.9% of the players are clueless and have no idea what the game needs to be good. The moment game developers stop making what they think are good decisions and start listening to whiners on a forum the game is dead.

It also is a topic thats not even worth having an opinion on because its obvious to anyone with an internet connection that theres a necessary reason why mechanics like this exists in all games. It would be as useful as having a poll on if the world is flat.
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JoannaDark#6252 a écrit :
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Kodavor#1200 a écrit :

Please. I'm all for it. A Dev poll on this would be extremely useful and showing. Will set the perspective in place. I would not say a thing more about it if it turns out that those who want it gone are super minority.


And, when it turns out that most would like to see it go, and the devs still say, 'nah, its stayin'...

Then what?

Personally, i fucking hate the penalty, BUT... its not exactly a new thing, so, i guess im just used to it. Only once, have i ever made 100 on POE1 across all these years. Generally, just get too damn bored after 92-95.


When you hit 100, was it a sense of accomplishment?

Doing it in POE1 is easy, in POE2 its worse than a chore. and its not because of deaths. its because of xp gain being slow.
`Spent 2 mirrors on my build, but I'm only Level 98.` LOL
`From just quick sweep of your characters, toxic rain, golems .. sure, non meta... sure.` LOL
`What are divs?`
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Nyon#6673 a écrit :
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teobibu#1278 a écrit :
So in conclusion there are 3 categories of people thoughts about XP LOSS.

1. Those who want it to go away.
2. Those who want it to stay as it is.
3. Those who want it to stay but with different and more innovative way.

So why not ask Devs to give us a POLL?
The result will be critical for future actions.



They will never do that because 99.9% of the players are clueless and have no idea what the game needs to be good. The moment game developers stop making what they think are good decisions and start listening to whiners on a forum the game is dead.

It also is a topic thats not even worth having an opinion on because its obvious to anyone with an internet connection that theres a necessary reason why mechanics like this exists in all games. It would be as useful as having a poll on if the world is flat.


So you are thinking that people's ideas or thoughts or whatever is documented that didn't work, is a bad idea and cannot be taken into account by Devs? Ok so Devs need to end all the posts and leave only bugs posts.

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