I will be playing Last Epoch in April instead of POE2

i'm not coming back in April. GGG would have to make big changes to end game systems for me to even want to play again. hope they do but im getting deep into elder scrolls online for now. i downloaded last epoch, but cant jump back into another rpg that fails in its attempt to one up d2.

Incorrect. Here is the actual truth.

PoE1 is a complete and utter joke. So is D4. Can't say much about Last Epoch, but would absolutely never go near that game from what I have seen from it.

PoE2 is the closest thing we have available to a legitimate arpg.

So you should be commending developers. Not ranting about aspects of this game that are exceptionally well designed. PoE2 is actually exemplary when it comes to any typical looter arpg/shooter on the market. Since most games in general cater to easy mode users. It is actually a legitimately balanced normal mode type game that is not even difficult just because it isn't designed to cater to easy mode (which is why mmos have gone down the drain over the years).

You seem to have a false comprehension of how a looter arpg works. And complaining about PoE2 based on utter misunderstanding of what you're even playing. Blaming the game for something that it has actually designed well for a change.

So let's start with this premise. Online netbuilds are the worst possible guideline for the general public to follow.

This is because they give a completely false impression of how uniques should work when a game is designed correctly. Uniques are supposed to be just that. Unique. They should not be universally affordable. And nobody should be planning their build around a unique that they do not own or have no ready access to.

A correct 'universal' meta build should be planned for rares. With unique-based builds perfectly fine if available. In fact, the best mindset is for a max setup should be without uniques.

No legitimate arpg is going to be played in a way that drops you find need to be based on a predetermined unique build. Then crying and throwing a tantrum when you can't find something. Such as users who try to blame the game as if there is something wrong with drop rates. When drop rates for this game are excellently done due to other games being too superfluous. Which undermines the game. Something that nobody wants to happen.

When the correct approach of any arpg is your build being based on what you find.

Before you play this game - stop listening to online BSerey. If you go on YT or pretty much anywhere, you will see BS guides frivolously recommending uniques. And discussing them as if everybody has access to them. When they do not and should not. Followed by crying and throwing a tantrum when you can't find/afford them like hosts who play the game 24/7. Should regular users be able to find/afford the same as those who play an unreasonable amount? Most definitely not. Will those who play an unreasonable amount be more likely to find things that are not designed to be acquired for normal play? Yes they are. You should not be basing your play on anybody who is playing the game 24/7. Then complaining about not being able to live up to them.

If I'm wrong, then show me a legit guide that actually discusses playing the game understanding that not everybody has or should have access to uniques and that uniques are exceptions. Not universal. Therefore, explaining to the public how to actually correctly play this game. And cater your build around rares.

How to actually approach a well designed arpg. First and foremost - do not listen to the absolute garbage advice given on the internet. Play and enjoy the game. Go for rares and tweaking your build as best as you can. If you want you can start a character zeroed out (zero gold with no HMD <handmedowns>). Do not expect to find uniques or worry about affordability in trade.

There is nothing here that caters to the rich or users who can play long hours. Not only will it be completely free including ability to buy (only requiring payment for premium stash tab to sell). The paid early access gives currency to be able to fully trade buy/sell. So any child with no money and school schedule will have no problem playing through and enjoying this game to the fullest without needing to spend any huge amount of time and money on it. Therefore, so can any grown up with a full time job.

You are trying to act as if something is wrong with the game when it is clearly a pebcak issue. You have not mentioned one actual real problem with the game.

Nobody in their right mind is pounding sand due to not having unreasonable expectations of trying to force what should be difficult to acquire. And looking forward to something they may be able to get eventually. Not throwing a 2-year old mine mine give me give me now tantrum.

PoE1 and other games are not the ones doing things correctly. PoE2 is the one doing it correctly.

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Kraythax#2592 a écrit :

1. Gear in POE2 is a slot machine that rewards endless hours of grinding and not much else. If you have thousands of hours to play then you are fine. If you are a working adult like me then you can forget Hardcore or Solo Self Found as a viable play style. I always play SSF because I dont want to "buy my build". Id rather ... uhh ... actually play the game.

Has nothing to do with PoE2 itself. There are games you can "finish" in a weekend like "Diablo 4" and there are games you can invest months like any MMORPG and normally the longer you play (the more time you can spend) the better the rewards. That PoE is on the "grindy" end is intentional... I mean...
GRINDing Gear Games.

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2. Lots of very popular systems in POE1 have been removed and the least popular systems (Sanctum and Ultimatum) were promoted. In Phrecia I have been more than a bit irritated that I am not able to remove Sanctum or Ultimatum from my maps because of the stupid RNG idol system. But at least in POE1 I can ignore them. Not so much in POE2. Since I play SSF and didn't buy a one key clear the whole map build, and I like to play melee ... well that third ascendancy just never happened. Personally I think they should forget trials completely.

Least popular? What? The "Ultimatum League" was so well received that many ppl pressured GGG to bring it back. And even then... compared to "Sanctum"... oh boy. The amount of ppl who love "Sanctum" is insane. Least popular... dude... where do you get your information from!?

Why would they give up on trials? It's the way your character ascends and with PoE2 we have 3 different trials to choose from.
I hope they bring Izaro back as the third trial, so he can teach you a lesson:
Wisdom is the offspring of suffering and time

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3. Most importantly the attitude of GGG. They basically told their most loyal paying customer base to "pound sand" and not in a polite way. Think of the most impolite way to say that and you still wont get there. They didn't make a sequel to POE1, they made a game targeted at Diablo 4 by borrowing POE1 code. Its a total mess. Not only are they promoting the D4 playstyle, the forums and global chat are overrun by a plethora of these players that are rude, crude and nasty. You are more likely to get conversations about politics or reproductive body parts in global than conversations about the game. THIS IS THE CROWD GGG IS WORKING TO GET. They think they can get a lot of money off of them. GGG doesn't care one bit about making a good game anymore, their game is now run by bean counters.

Is this "Strawman, the Comment"? You just mishmash things together without any sense. Topics in YOUR global chat do not reflect the entire PoE community, not even a majority. Furthermore, your mentioned topics are against the "Code of Conduct" and would result in a chat mute.
Furtherfurthermore, you call others "rude, crude and nasty" without any actual basis with such a generalization while pretending you are not one of "these players".

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I realize I will be flamed and that is just ... meh ... par for the course with this new audience and I dont care. But there are a LOT of GGG diehards that feel the same way. I talk to them constantly in POE1. If that is the derection GGG wants to go, count us out. If we wanted a community like this we would go to Reddit. If we wanted a game like this we would just play D4.

Peace ... out.

Impressive "foresight"... but what community "like this" are you actually talking about? You made an entire post with many words saying nothing, instead it's a rant you literally find on Reddit.
If you talk constantly with these "PoE1 diehards", why don't you provide constructive feedback based on your conversations!?

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Least popular? What? The "Ultimatum League" was so well received that many ppl pressured GGG to bring it back. And even then... compared to "Sanctum"... oh boy. The amount of ppl who love "Sanctum" is insane. Least popular... dude... where do you get your information from!?

Why would they give up on trials? It's the way your character ascends and with PoE2 we have 3 different trials to choose from.
I hope they bring Izaro back as the third trial, so he can teach you a lesson:
Wisdom is the offspring of suffering and time

Honour system is for ranged characters. I liked Sanctum, so by your logic and their statistics reading ablitites i should like Chaos and Suhkmyass trials too? I don't, I hate them. Honour system more like coward meter.

I am playing Last Epoch now. No need to wait! :)

What a breath of fresh air too! OMG we have been abused by POE for to long...


GGG is scared of what actual talent looks like so now they are reduced to pushing their updates at the same time as Last Epoch. How sad LMAO.



I recommend Last Epoch to anyone who wants an ARPG where the devs respect your time as a player.

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BattLeSCVs#6386 a écrit :

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Least popular? What? The "Ultimatum League" was so well received that many ppl pressured GGG to bring it back. And even then... compared to "Sanctum"... oh boy. The amount of ppl who love "Sanctum" is insane. Least popular... dude... where do you get your information from!?

Why would they give up on trials? It's the way your character ascends and with PoE2 we have 3 different trials to choose from.
I hope they bring Izaro back as the third trial, so he can teach you a lesson:
Wisdom is the offspring of suffering and time

Honour system is for ranged characters. I liked Sanctum, so by your logic and their statistics reading albitites I should like Chaos and Suhkmyass trials too? I don't, I hate them. Honor system more like coward meter.

Sekhima trials require you to be ranged. Any melee loses on honor, especially at the second trial. Chaos trials are stupid overpowered in order for a melee character to win a wand.

I would have Izaro and the lab back in a hot second over these two travesties.

Whoever invented these 2 trials is either a sadist or a complete moron. I will let GGG pick. Since I know I wont be able to get the third trial on any char I like to play, that alone dampens enthusiasm.

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Kraythax#2592 a écrit :

Sekhima trials require you to be ranged. Any melee loses on honor, especially at the second trial. Chaos trials are stupid overpowered in order for a melee character to win a wand.

I would have Izaro and the lab back in a hot second over these two travesties.

Whoever invented these 2 trials is either a sadist or a complete moron. I will let GGG pick. Since I know I wont be able to get the third trial on any char I like to play, that alone dampens enthusiasm.

Ranged builds truly have advantages but it is hardly "required" for that. With 75% honour resist and some maximum honour it gets a lot easier even with melee chars.

IMAO, it only gets hard on the 4th floor. The path is weird, not straight, but there is almost no walls on it. On the other hand, there are a lot of ranged mobs that can abuse those conditions. It is just one floor in the run though, and, as the last one, you are probably already have the best boons, specially the 40% move speed, which make it a lot easy as you can basically ignore mobs on most of the trial objectives.

My problem with sekhemas is the RNG on that. If you get a cursed run that forces you to pick a affliction that you can't deal with or if you don't get chance to grab the important boons, your run will be a lot harder, if not impossible. If it were short like Trial of Chaos, I could deal with RNG-god and just reset the trial. It is still a bad design, but the time lost wouldn't be that much of a deal at least. But no, Sekhemas 75+ is a hour long trial for average builds. Getting to the 3rd or 4th floor and then being hit by bad RNG feels incrediblely worse in this case.

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Kraythax#2592 a écrit :

POE2 has a lot of work to do to earn my business back. I have bought almost $2000 worth of stuff from GGG but its clear that bean counters from TenCent have control of the company. Chris Wilson left but clearly he was given an NDA and non disparage (I hope he got paid well for that) and he cant talk much about his departure. POE2 is not a sequel to POE1 and in fact POE1 is a better game in many ways. There are only 2 or 3 things in POE2 that are better. GGG has gone AAA and that is very unfortunate. Baring some dramatic shifts in the philosophy of GGG my days with them might be done. Who cares? About me, probably no one. But if enough feel as I do then there will be a big problem.

My Issues:
1. Gear in POE2 is a slot machine that rewards endless hours of grinding and not much else. If you have thousands of hours to play then you are fine. If you are a working adult like me then you can forget Hardcore or Solo Self Found as a viable play style. I always play SSF because I dont want to "buy my build". Id rather ... uhh ... actually play the game.

2. Lots of very popular systems in POE1 have been removed and the least popular systems (Sanctum and Ultimatum) were promoted. In Phrecia I have been more than a bit irritated that I am not able to remove Sanctum or Ultimatum from my maps because of the stupid RNG idol system. But at least in POE1 I can ignore them. Not so much in POE2. Since I play SSF and didn't buy a one key clear the whole map build, and I like to play melee ... well that third ascendancy just never happened. Personally I think they should forget trials completely.

3. Most importantly the attitude of GGG. They basically told their most loyal paying customer base to "pound sand" and not in a polite way. Think of the most impolite way to say that and you still wont get there. They didn't make a sequel to POE1, they made a game targeted at Diablo 4 by borrowing POE1 code. Its a total mess. Not only are they promoting the D4 playstyle, the forums and global chat are overrun by a plethora of these players that are rude, crude and nasty. You are more likely to get conversations about politics or reproductive body parts in global than conversations about the game. THIS IS THE CROWD GGG IS WORKING TO GET. They think they can get a lot of money off of them. GGG doesn't care one bit about making a good game anymore, their game is now run by bean counters.

I realize I will be flamed and that is just ... meh ... par for the course with this new audience and I dont care. But there are a LOT of GGG diehards that feel the same way. I talk to them constantly in POE1. If that is the derection GGG wants to go, count us out. If we wanted a community like this we would go to Reddit. If we wanted a game like this we would just play D4.

Peace ... out.

No flaming from me. Just a reminder: It's your time, it's your dime. I do hope you find all that you're looking for to make your gaming experience all that you want it to be. Hopefully, when you look back someday, you'll see POE 2 has improved enough to be to your liking.

Take care, and enjoy.

I appreciate LE challenges and efforts but we are in 2025, I will not play a game where combat feels like cupboard, characters and spells moves like toy soldiers

Good bye. Hope you have fun.
(poe2 is fine, though)