I will be playing Last Epoch in April instead of POE2

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Kraythax#2592 a écrit :

1. Gear in POE2 is a slot machine that rewards endless hours of grinding and not much else. If you have thousands of hours to play then you are fine. If you are a working adult like me then you can forget Hardcore or Solo Self Found as a viable play style. I always play SSF because I dont want to "buy my build". Id rather ... uhh ... actually play the game.

Has nothing to do with PoE2 itself. There are games you can "finish" in a weekend like "Diablo 4" and there are games you can invest months like any MMORPG and normally the longer you play (the more time you can spend) the better the rewards. That PoE is on the "grindy" end is intentional... I mean...
GRINDing Gear Games.

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2. Lots of very popular systems in POE1 have been removed and the least popular systems (Sanctum and Ultimatum) were promoted. In Phrecia I have been more than a bit irritated that I am not able to remove Sanctum or Ultimatum from my maps because of the stupid RNG idol system. But at least in POE1 I can ignore them. Not so much in POE2. Since I play SSF and didn't buy a one key clear the whole map build, and I like to play melee ... well that third ascendancy just never happened. Personally I think they should forget trials completely.


Least popular? What? The "Ultimatum League" was so well received that many ppl pressured GGG to bring it back. And even then... compared to "Sanctum"... oh boy. The amount of ppl who love "Sanctum" is insane. Least popular... dude... where do you get your information from!?

Why would they give up on trials? It's the way your character ascends and with PoE2 we have 3 different trials to choose from.
I hope they bring Izaro back as the third trial, so he can teach you a lesson:
Wisdom is the offspring of suffering and time

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3. Most importantly the attitude of GGG. They basically told their most loyal paying customer base to "pound sand" and not in a polite way. Think of the most impolite way to say that and you still wont get there. They didn't make a sequel to POE1, they made a game targeted at Diablo 4 by borrowing POE1 code. Its a total mess. Not only are they promoting the D4 playstyle, the forums and global chat are overrun by a plethora of these players that are rude, crude and nasty. You are more likely to get conversations about politics or reproductive body parts in global than conversations about the game. THIS IS THE CROWD GGG IS WORKING TO GET. They think they can get a lot of money off of them. GGG doesn't care one bit about making a good game anymore, their game is now run by bean counters.


Is this "Strawman, the Comment"? You just mishmash things together without any sense. Topics in YOUR global chat do not reflect the entire PoE community, not even a majority. Furthermore, your mentioned topics are against the "Code of Conduct" and would result in a chat mute.
Furtherfurthermore, you call others "rude, crude and nasty" without any actual basis with such a generalization while pretending you are not one of "these players".

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I realize I will be flamed and that is just ... meh ... par for the course with this new audience and I dont care. But there are a LOT of GGG diehards that feel the same way. I talk to them constantly in POE1. If that is the derection GGG wants to go, count us out. If we wanted a community like this we would go to Reddit. If we wanted a game like this we would just play D4.

Peace ... out.

Impressive "foresight"... but what community "like this" are you actually talking about? You made an entire post with many words saying nothing, instead it's a rant you literally find on Reddit.
If you talk constantly with these "PoE1 diehards", why don't you provide constructive feedback based on your conversations!?
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Least popular? What? The "Ultimatum League" was so well received that many ppl pressured GGG to bring it back. And even then... compared to "Sanctum"... oh boy. The amount of ppl who love "Sanctum" is insane. Least popular... dude... where do you get your information from!?

Why would they give up on trials? It's the way your character ascends and with PoE2 we have 3 different trials to choose from.
I hope they bring Izaro back as the third trial, so he can teach you a lesson:
Wisdom is the offspring of suffering and time


Honour system is for ranged characters. I liked Sanctum, so by your logic and their statistics reading ablitites i should like Chaos and Suhkmyass trials too? I don't, I hate them. Honour system more like coward meter.
I am playing Last Epoch now. No need to wait! :)

What a breath of fresh air too! OMG we have been abused by POE for to long...


GGG is scared of what actual talent looks like so now they are reduced to pushing their updates at the same time as Last Epoch. How sad LMAO.



I recommend Last Epoch to anyone who wants an ARPG where the devs respect your time as a player.
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BattLeSCVs#6386 a écrit :
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Least popular? What? The "Ultimatum League" was so well received that many ppl pressured GGG to bring it back. And even then... compared to "Sanctum"... oh boy. The amount of ppl who love "Sanctum" is insane. Least popular... dude... where do you get your information from!?

Why would they give up on trials? It's the way your character ascends and with PoE2 we have 3 different trials to choose from.
I hope they bring Izaro back as the third trial, so he can teach you a lesson:
Wisdom is the offspring of suffering and time


Honour system is for ranged characters. I liked Sanctum, so by your logic and their statistics reading albitites I should like Chaos and Suhkmyass trials too? I don't, I hate them. Honor system more like coward meter.


Sekhima trials require you to be ranged. Any melee loses on honor, especially at the second trial. Chaos trials are stupid overpowered in order for a melee character to win a wand.

I would have Izaro and the lab back in a hot second over these two travesties.

Whoever invented these 2 trials is either a sadist or a complete moron. I will let GGG pick. Since I know I wont be able to get the third trial on any char I like to play, that alone dampens enthusiasm.
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Kraythax#2592 a écrit :
Sekhima trials require you to be ranged. Any melee loses on honor, especially at the second trial. Chaos trials are stupid overpowered in order for a melee character to win a wand.

I would have Izaro and the lab back in a hot second over these two travesties.

Whoever invented these 2 trials is either a sadist or a complete moron. I will let GGG pick. Since I know I wont be able to get the third trial on any char I like to play, that alone dampens enthusiasm.


Ranged builds truly have advantages but it is hardly "required" for that. With 75% honour resist and some maximum honour it gets a lot easier even with melee chars.

IMAO, it only gets hard on the 4th floor. The path is weird, not straight, but there is almost no walls on it. On the other hand, there are a lot of ranged mobs that can abuse those conditions. It is just one floor in the run though, and, as the last one, you are probably already have the best boons, specially the 40% move speed, which make it a lot easy as you can basically ignore mobs on most of the trial objectives.

My problem with sekhemas is the RNG on that. If you get a cursed run that forces you to pick a affliction that you can't deal with or if you don't get chance to grab the important boons, your run will be a lot harder, if not impossible. If it were short like Trial of Chaos, I could deal with RNG-god and just reset the trial. It is still a bad design, but the time lost wouldn't be that much of a deal at least. But no, Sekhemas 75+ is a hour long trial for average builds. Getting to the 3rd or 4th floor and then being hit by bad RNG feels incrediblely worse in this case.
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Kraythax#2592 a écrit :
POE2 has a lot of work to do to earn my business back. I have bought almost $2000 worth of stuff from GGG but its clear that bean counters from TenCent have control of the company. Chris Wilson left but clearly he was given an NDA and non disparage (I hope he got paid well for that) and he cant talk much about his departure. POE2 is not a sequel to POE1 and in fact POE1 is a better game in many ways. There are only 2 or 3 things in POE2 that are better. GGG has gone AAA and that is very unfortunate. Baring some dramatic shifts in the philosophy of GGG my days with them might be done. Who cares? About me, probably no one. But if enough feel as I do then there will be a big problem.

My Issues:
1. Gear in POE2 is a slot machine that rewards endless hours of grinding and not much else. If you have thousands of hours to play then you are fine. If you are a working adult like me then you can forget Hardcore or Solo Self Found as a viable play style. I always play SSF because I dont want to "buy my build". Id rather ... uhh ... actually play the game.

2. Lots of very popular systems in POE1 have been removed and the least popular systems (Sanctum and Ultimatum) were promoted. In Phrecia I have been more than a bit irritated that I am not able to remove Sanctum or Ultimatum from my maps because of the stupid RNG idol system. But at least in POE1 I can ignore them. Not so much in POE2. Since I play SSF and didn't buy a one key clear the whole map build, and I like to play melee ... well that third ascendancy just never happened. Personally I think they should forget trials completely.

3. Most importantly the attitude of GGG. They basically told their most loyal paying customer base to "pound sand" and not in a polite way. Think of the most impolite way to say that and you still wont get there. They didn't make a sequel to POE1, they made a game targeted at Diablo 4 by borrowing POE1 code. Its a total mess. Not only are they promoting the D4 playstyle, the forums and global chat are overrun by a plethora of these players that are rude, crude and nasty. You are more likely to get conversations about politics or reproductive body parts in global than conversations about the game. THIS IS THE CROWD GGG IS WORKING TO GET. They think they can get a lot of money off of them. GGG doesn't care one bit about making a good game anymore, their game is now run by bean counters.

I realize I will be flamed and that is just ... meh ... par for the course with this new audience and I dont care. But there are a LOT of GGG diehards that feel the same way. I talk to them constantly in POE1. If that is the derection GGG wants to go, count us out. If we wanted a community like this we would go to Reddit. If we wanted a game like this we would just play D4.

Peace ... out.


No flaming from me. Just a reminder: It's your time, it's your dime. I do hope you find all that you're looking for to make your gaming experience all that you want it to be. Hopefully, when you look back someday, you'll see POE 2 has improved enough to be to your liking.

Take care, and enjoy.
I appreciate LE challenges and efforts but we are in 2025, I will not play a game where combat feels like cupboard, characters and spells moves like toy soldiers
Good bye. Hope you have fun.
(poe2 is fine, though)
I wanted to like PoE2. But the abuse the Warrior gets turned me off. I was hoping that GGG would actually back their hype for once.

Instead, I'm an idiot because after 14 years, you'd THINK I'd learn my lesson. They don't care about melee enough to make it fun.

Maybe someday they'll do something, but I'll be over here playing Grim Dawn and some Last Epoch.

But at no time am I going to say any of you are wrong for liking this game. I don't have the right.
You can play both you know ?

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