[3.18] (((Abandoned))) Donkster5' The Toxic Tank! RIP 3.19 due to mana res issues

Jesus that was the longest list of nerfs in patch notes ever that they released 9 hours ago.

Ballista Totem:

Supported Skills now deal 42-36% less Damage (previously 42-33%).


Toxic rain: found nothing in the list regarding toxic rain


Swift Affliction:



Awakened Swift Affliction:



Empower:

Now has a 140% Cost and Reservation Multiplier (previously 125%).

Vicious Projectiles:



Awakened Vicious Projectiles:



Void Manipulation:



Awakened Void Manipulation:



Will all these changes to mana reservation multiplier affect the build big time? Oh and build uses Vitality + Malevolencem and haste/vaalhaste(?)
Builds mana pool will be strangled? (obviously all builds in all clsees right)

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Sazzbot a écrit :

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Jesus that was the longest list of nerfs in patch notes ever that they released 9 hours ago.

Ballista Totem:

Supported Skills now deal 42-36% less Damage (previously 42-33%).


Toxic rain: found nothing in the list regarding toxic rain


Swift Affliction:

Spoiler

ow has a 150% Cost and Reservation Multiplier (previously 125%).
Supported Skills now deal 20-34% more Damage over Time (previously 25-44%).
Now grants “25% less Duration of Supported Skills and Damaging Ailments they inflict” (previously 15% reduced).
Quality on the Anomalous Swift Affliction Support no longer grants “Supported Skills have 0-5% increased Attack and Cast Speed”.

Awakened Swift Affliction:

Spoiler

Now has a 150% Cost and Reservation Multiplier (previously 125%).
Quality no longer grants "Supported Skills have +0-10% to Damage over Time Multiplier".
Supported Skills now deal 40-44% more Damage over Time (previously 45-49%).
Now grants "25% less Duration of Supported Skills and Damaging Ailments they inflict" (previously 25% reduced Duration).

Empower:

Now has a 140% Cost and Reservation Multiplier (previously 125%).

Vicious Projectiles:

Spoiler

Now has a 140% Cost and Reservation Multiplier (previously 120%).
Supported Skills now deal 30-49% more Physical Projectile Attack Damage (previously 40-59%).
Supported Skills now deal 30-49% more Physical Damage over Time (previously 40-59%).
Supported Skills now deal 30-49% more Chaos Damage over Time (previously 40-59%).

Awakened Vicious Projectiles:

Spoiler

Now has a 140% Cost and Reservation Multiplier (previously 120%).
Quality now grants "Supported Skills deal 0-10% increased Physical Damage" (previously 0-20%).
Supported Skills now deal 50-54% more Physical Projectile Attack Damage (previously 60-64%).
Supported Skills now deal 50-54% more Physical Damage over Time (previously 60-64%).
Supported Skills now deal 50-54% more Chaos Damage over Time (previously 60-64%).

Void Manipulation:

Spoiler

Now has a 140% Cost and Reservation Multiplier (previously 120%).
Supported Skills now deal 20-34% more Chaos Damage (previously 20-39%).
No longer has Supported Skills deal 25% reduced Elemental Damage. It now has Supported Skills deal no Elemental Damage.
Quality on the Anomalous Void Manipulation Support no longer grants “Supported Skills have 0-5% increased Attack and Cast Speed”. It now grants “Supported Skills have 0-10% increased Area of Effect” (previously 0-5%).

Awakened Void Manipulation:

Spoiler

Now has a 140% Cost and Reservation Multiplier (previously 120%).
Quality now grants "Supported Skills deal 0-10% increased Chaos Damage" (previously 0-20%).
Supported Skills now deal 35-39% more Chaos Damage (previously 40-44%).
No longer has "Supported Skills deal 25% reduced Elemental Damage". It now has "Supported Skills deal no Elemental Damage".

Will all these changes to mana reservation multiplier affect the build big time? Oh and build uses Vitality + Malevolencem and haste/vaalhaste(?)
Builds mana pool will be strangled? (obviously all builds in all clsees right)

So, this build lost some dps, but not as much as others in the grand scheme of things according to my early calculations. I'll verify when PoB gets updated. Fortify nerfs are pretty minor for this build. The mana thing is a big question, but I don't think its any worse than many other builds or insurmountable. I am going to say Malevolence and Flesh and Stone are Aura's... clarity if you think it helps with mana. Vitality is no longer very good after it got nerfed in 3.14. Running it or Clarity with arrogance is a thought. Pathing into mana nodes may be necessary. Also, enduring mana flasks are probably going to be mandatory but not as good as before... we'll just have to see. Vaal Clarity and Vaal Haste, but only for boss fights. Does increased duration affect Vaal Skills, because if so, maybe do Vaal Clarity and Vaal Haste with Inc Duration for a nice period of no mana issues and speed.

Overall, I think it survived.

Edit: PoB should be ready within 24 hours. Purely updating PoB showed a 25% reduction in DPS, but thats before reworking anything. My other build went from 10% nerf to 10% buff in DPS so there is reason to believe its not as bad as it seems.

Thanks for the build, I managed to complete lvl 90 HC achievement with it before upcoming nerfs.

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Xeverous a écrit :

Thanks for the build, I managed to complete lvl 90 HC achievement with it before upcoming nerfs.

Congratulations!

I think it’s still going to perform quite well, especially in HC settings. I’m updating the PoB and it’ll be out before league start. The only real concern based off preliminary assessment may be mana management with selfcast, but I think there’s a creative workaround somewhere.

I was contemplating between starting off with your Lightning strike build or this and decided to start with this one!!

Will you have an updated pob for the league start? :)

Thank you in advance for your replies and help!! Really appreciate all the effort you put into your build guides. <3

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Kipersoft a écrit :

I was contemplating between starting off with your Lightning strike build or this and decided to start with this one!!

Will you have an updated pob for the league start? :)

Thank you in advance for your replies and help!! Really appreciate all the effort you put into your build guides. <3

Yes, I’ll have an updated PoB and build guide out before league start.

Thanks!

The build has been updated. There are changes but damage will be fine. I do have concerns about Mana and that will have to be worked through. My gut is an Enduring Flask will be mandatory and you'll want to have some combination of Non-channeling skills cost -XX Mana crafts and items. That includes Elreon craft, warlord chest, and/or Watcher's eye. Edit: Replica Conquerer Efficiency works well too.

How about Replica Conqueror's Efficiency? for another -mana.

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Donkster5 a écrit :

The build has been updated. There are changes but damage will be fine. I do have concerns about Mana and that will have to be worked through. My gut is an Enduring Flask will be mandatory and you'll want to have some combination of Non-channeling skills cost -XX Mana crafts and items. That includes Elreon craft, warlord chest, and Watcher's eye.

Thanks for updating. I am excited. We will find out tonight/tomorrow if this league will be fun or not.

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Corso45rus a écrit :

How about Replica Conqueror's Efficiency? for another -mana.

Good call! and, yup, I'm tired. Goodnight. Will have to add that in the morning.