Item Rarity and Quantity are totally useless

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koppees a écrit :
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lethal_papercut a écrit :


No matter what ppl say you still don't get it. You have been given the answers but choose to ignore them. gl


I want proof, not answers! Show me you effectively high MF-ing lvl 70+ maps or GTFO!


Are you the dumbest person in existence? Serious question. If not show me someone that is dumber or GTFO.
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thepmrc a écrit :
Are you the dumbest person in existence? Serious question. If not show me someone that is dumber or GTFO.


Asking to prove something is dumb thing? I guess we should close all the courts in the world.
Dernière édition par koppees#0118, le 21 mars 2013 à 16:20:17
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koppees a écrit :
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thepmrc a écrit :
Are you the dumbest person in existence? Serious question. If not show me someone that is dumber or GTFO.


Asking to prove something is dumb thing? I guess we should close all the courts in the world.


Stupid post deserves a stupid response.

Rarity and quantity are great. The more the better. If you don't understand that a balance of kill speed and IIQ/IIR is ideal then too bad. There is no need to prove what is blatantly obvious. If I can clear a map in 5 mins with no IIQ/IIR or clear the same map in 7 mins with 100% IIQ/IIR I will take the second option EVERY time. Now, if I was personally trying to ladder race to be the first 100 I might not make that sacrifice... its about options.
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thepmrc a écrit :
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koppees a écrit :
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thepmrc a écrit :
Are you the dumbest person in existence? Serious question. If not show me someone that is dumber or GTFO.


Asking to prove something is dumb thing? I guess we should close all the courts in the world.


Stupid post deserves a stupid response.

Rarity and quantity are great. The more the better. If you don't understand that a balance of kill speed and IIQ/IIR is ideal then too bad. There is no need to prove what is blatantly obvious. If I can clear a map in 5 mins with no IIQ/IIR or clear the same map in 7 mins with 100% IIQ/IIR I will take the second option EVERY time. Now, if I was personally trying to ladder race to be the first 100 I might not make that sacrifice... its about options.


I have not done high level maps myself yet, but I already see that high level content is very difficult, at least for solo player. You can't just leave all of your max offensive/defensive gear aside and use andvarius ring, for example. Instead of progressing and getting good loot you more likely end up dead.
Dernière édition par koppees#0118, le 21 mars 2013 à 17:15:42
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koppees a écrit :


I have not done high level maps myself yet, but I already see that high level content is very difficult, at least for solo player. You can't just leave all of your max offensive/defensive gear aside and use andvarius ring, for example. Instead of progressing and getting good loot you more likely end up dead.


lol. Well, how about you don't talk about shit you know absolutely nothing about then. I speak from experience, 70+ maps are easy (with the exception of a few bosses). If you smash through 66-69 maps you will be able to smash through 70-73 maps as well. The main challenge comes from the random monster spawns. A level 66 map is potentially MUCH harder than a 73 map if the 66 map has alchemists/undying grapplers/etc... and the 73 map has a bunch of bandits and sea witches. Personally I feel that IIQ is MUCH more important than IIR and I have sacrificed nearly 50% of my DPS for these mods/gems for periods of time. The impact is most certainly noticeable on the drops and the drop in killing speed is not a big issue when you are simply trying to maximize the net gains from each high level map.
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thepmrc a écrit :
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koppees a écrit :


I have not done high level maps myself yet, but I already see that high level content is very difficult, at least for solo player. You can't just leave all of your max offensive/defensive gear aside and use andvarius ring, for example. Instead of progressing and getting good loot you more likely end up dead.


lol. Well, how about you don't talk about shit you know absolutely nothing about then. I speak from experience, 70+ maps are easy (with the exception of a few bosses). If you smash through 66-69 maps you will be able to smash through 70-73 maps as well. The main challenge comes from the random monster spawns. A level 66 map is potentially MUCH harder than a 73 map if the 66 map has alchemists/undying grapplers/etc... and the 73 map has a bunch of bandits and sea witches. Personally I feel that IIQ is MUCH more important than IIR and I have sacrificed nearly 50% of my DPS for these mods/gems for periods of time. The impact is most certainly noticeable on the drops and the drop in killing speed is not a big issue when you are simply trying to maximize the net gains from each high level map.


It took me almost an hour to clear my first lvl 66 map with my IIR/IIQ gear. Result was 0. And I really doubt that it will get any easier at higher levels.

My conclusion is that MF gimps me more at high lvl maps then does any good. With my regular gear I can clear maps significantly faster and this helps me get to high level content quicker.

Dernière édition par koppees#0118, le 21 mars 2013 à 17:50:13
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koppees a écrit :
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thepmrc a écrit :
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koppees a écrit :


I have not done high level maps myself yet, but I already see that high level content is very difficult, at least for solo player. You can't just leave all of your max offensive/defensive gear aside and use andvarius ring, for example. Instead of progressing and getting good loot you more likely end up dead.


lol. Well, how about you don't talk about shit you know absolutely nothing about then. I speak from experience, 70+ maps are easy (with the exception of a few bosses). If you smash through 66-69 maps you will be able to smash through 70-73 maps as well. The main challenge comes from the random monster spawns. A level 66 map is potentially MUCH harder than a 73 map if the 66 map has alchemists/undying grapplers/etc... and the 73 map has a bunch of bandits and sea witches. Personally I feel that IIQ is MUCH more important than IIR and I have sacrificed nearly 50% of my DPS for these mods/gems for periods of time. The impact is most certainly noticeable on the drops and the drop in killing speed is not a big issue when you are simply trying to maximize the net gains from each high level map.


It took me almost an hour to clear my first lvl 66 map with my IIR/IIQ gear. Result was 0. And I really doubt that it will get any easier at higher levels.



This doesn't change the fact that your statement about IIR and IIQ being useless is wildly inaccurate. It just goes to show that you need to balance your efficiency and MF. Get to where you are clearing 66 maps in 5 minutes and then start incrementally adding some IIQ/IIR, granted you still want these mods on decent pieces of gear... not just a random hat with 20% IIQ and no other decent mods.
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koppees a écrit :

It took me almost an hour to clear my first lvl 66 map with my IIR/IIQ gear. Result was 0. And I really doubt that it will get any easier at higher levels.

My conclusion is that MF gimps me more at high lvl maps then does any good. With my regular gear I can clear maps significantly faster and this helps me get to high level content quicker.

Then the simple fact is just that your gear with IIR/IIQ suck ass and your normal gear doesn't(at least not as much), that has nothing to do with those stats being useless.
"An it harm none, do what you will"
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koppees a écrit :

My conclusion is that MF gimps me more at high lvl maps then does any good. With my regular gear I can clear maps significantly faster and this helps me get to high level content quicker.

As I said, that's like an implicit Increased Item Quantity, being able to kill more enemies quicker. And if it's not everyone's goal to get to higher-level content quicker. I don't play that way myself, as I like more experimenting with different builds, which itself can require specific gear.

But to those that want to gain more XP, clear faster, absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Solo player Double totem witch clear 66-75 map with ease. 260IR and 100 IQ.



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Dernière édition par clon8888#2947, le 22 mars 2013 à 02:39:48

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