Explain Eldritch Battery better

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VideoGeemer a écrit :

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Arbitraged a écrit :

Almost every skill / passive is 100% transparent, i ran into one earlier however which did opposite of what I thought, but still thats 1 out of what 250 ? 400? lol

I'm curious which that was.

"Increased energy shield cooldown recovery" is awkwardly-worded, but I doubt anyone would think it would do anything other than lessen the cooldown time.

was a shield passive that gives +% res with shield, i assumed that this passive would give that %res to minions since it gives all shield bonus to minion, but it gives to player

http://en.pathofexilewiki.com/wiki/Necromantic_Aegis

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Dreggon a écrit :

Let me try mathy crap.

((Base mana + flat mana boosts from gear or Alira + (Intelligence/2)) + (energy shield from gear [no other source]) * (energy shield % boosts from gear + Intelligence/5)) * percentage mana boosts from the passive tree


equals your mana with EB


Also, get Chaos Inoculation.

haha

CI: 1 HP
ALL ES converted to mana

This means you 1 HP, no ES and a crapload of mana. You will die from every hit.

You can get CI and EB, but don't get out of town :))

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Arbitraged a écrit :

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VideoGeemer a écrit :

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Arbitraged a écrit :

Almost every skill / passive is 100% transparent, i ran into one earlier however which did opposite of what I thought, but still thats 1 out of what 250 ? 400? lol

I'm curious which that was.

"Increased energy shield cooldown recovery" is awkwardly-worded, but I doubt anyone would think it would do anything other than lessen the cooldown time.

was a shield passive that gives +% res with shield, i assumed that this passive would give that %res to minions since it gives all shield bonus to minion, but it gives to player

http://en.pathofexilewiki.com/wiki/Necromantic_Aegis

Yeah, that *does* seem like it would give those resistances to the minions. I never considered that it wouldn't work like that, and actually, I wonder if that's a bug.

Used google to find this post since I was also curious how EB worked. My initial understanding of EB was...the white thing in the HP sphere would be transferred to the mana sphere and would behave like it did with HP except this time it goes down upon subtraction of MP...then goes about its normal ES regen after some time of not using mana.

Based on what I read (I passed through all the pages including the flame wars) all the ES points gets carried over to the mana pool adding to the maximum mana. It was also stated that you'd have more mana regen but I think it was a bit vague. Vague in terms of one thing that bothered me.

What happens to the ES regen rate? does it disappear in favor of the normal mana regen rate or...if your mana pool is 800, and your ES is 200, giving you a total of 1000 mana...does the 200 points regen normally like mana or does it regen like ES?(example would be like my initial assumption of how EB worked)

Wow, can't believe I actually read those first few pages. Horrific.

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VideoGeemer a écrit :

"Increased energy shield cooldown recovery" is awkwardly-worded, but I doubt anyone would think it would do anything other than lessen the cooldown time.

If we're discussing awkwardly worded passives, my vote goes to "with sword, reduce enemy block". I understand what it means thanks to the description below it, but still, not a catchy title for a passive :P


Edit: Also a mod might want to go through the first few pages of this thread. Looks like it slipped through the net :S

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unkempt a écrit :

Wow, can't believe I actually read those first few pages. Horrific.

It'd be interesting to know whether or not a person can be put on probation for something they said a year ago. Hilarious would be more like it.

I have a question about this as well. Lets say that you have 300 mana and 300 es. With Eldritch battery you now have 600. DO the 8% mana nodes increase ALL of the mana ?(pure and es) so basicly would an 8% node give 24 mana or 48?


Also regarding E-shield nodes, same question basically. Is it more useful to take es nodes or mana nodes to boost Battery? Do mana nodes affect ALL because if so then the mana nodes would be more powerful than the es nodes unless the es nodes that are now mana are exactly the same.. My head hurts...

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VideoGeemer a écrit :

That gets us to 552.

There's got to be something we're overlooking. Maybe it's not a 1:1 ratio of transfer, kinds like how evasion transfers more than 1:1 to armor via IR?

Meh

Most of players are still totally clueless about basic game mechanics

Shield has:

300 ES,

You have:

300 int providing 60% inc. ES
100% increased ES from passives gear
30% mana from tree

With all your stats, shield has 300*(1+0,6+1) = 300*2,6 = 780 basic mana from that shield

Then you have a 30% increased mana nodes

That basic 780 becomes 780*1,3 = 1014 final mana.

Ill do these calcs with my EB templar too.

EDIT: lel i necroed :D

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Mahesys a écrit :

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VideoGeemer a écrit :

That gets us to 552.

There's got to be something we're overlooking. Maybe it's not a 1:1 ratio of transfer, kinds like how evasion transfers more than 1:1 to armor via IR?

Meh

Most of players are still totally clueless about basic game mechanics

Shield has:

300 ES,

You have:

300 int providing 60% inc. ES
100% increased ES from passives gear
30% mana from tree

With all your stats, shield has 300*(1+0,6+1) = 300*2,6 = 780 basic mana from that shield

Then you have a 30% increased mana nodes

That basic 780 becomes 780*1,3 = 1014 final mana.

Ill do these calcs with my EB templar too.

EDIT: lel i necroed :D

Necro and also incorrect. % Mana and ES stack additively. So in this case you get 300 * (1 + 0.6 + 1 + 0.3) = 870 mana from the shield.