RIP POE for players like me :(

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As I said - I'm not a top tier player (as many arent). I dont enjoy the stress of bossing - I dont have the PC/internet for top bossing - I dont have the reflexes and hate having to learn each boss's mechanics.

I have some characters who clear maps at mid speed - some clear maps at high speed - some are good to do Uber Lab - Some can do elder and guardians.

Not all of us build characters to be boss killers or to be able to afk bosses - some of us build characters to see if we can make skills or items work for us. We dont expect the moon and are happy if eg our toons can clear red maps.

But how can I level up eg bower characters who can clear maps by keeping mobs at a distance - when I am ambushed by melee tank Betrayal bosses?

Use some common sense - Archers IRL do massive damage AT A DISTANCE - they usually only wear leather and are not heavily muscled. If an armoured knight ambushed an archer at melee range - an archer would be dead. This is what happens with the ambush part of Betrayal.

Most of use playing POE are not top tier players who have awesome gear - awesome reflexes and awesome knowledge of boss mechanics - But many of us are competent to build workable characters that can take on some aspect of the game we want.

Yes tanks can deal with the Betrayal ambush - But bowers and other characters who need levels (without losing exp from Betrayal deaths) for dps and life - cant.

Its not our lack of skill building characters - its GGG introducing bosses that ambush characters that we have no choice about.

GGG states it has built a game so players have CHOICE - the Betrayal ambush mob takes that choice away as it means we have to build tanks - many of us dont just want to play tanks or follow a guide (which often involves items costing numerous exalts)

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Nomancs a écrit :

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I would play POE to escape/relax and loved making my own builds.

Hi there.
I'm surprised noone wrote this here before, but 99% homemade builds will not work. It requires deep knowdlegde of game mechanics, passive tree and items (I don't think I remember more than 10% uniques, not to mention their stat values). Also, most of the builds posted on forum are either weak or don't work. I got friends who msg me "this build is horrible, game is unplayeable!" and when I check their choice, i find out the build is either outdated, not tested, or author write "I feel that this build is great, but I havn't been able to do uber Izaro with it yet".

Path of Exile is not casual friendly. Sure, you can do whatever you want, but be aware that not everything will work - for that you can blame only yourself. It is like wanting to be an artist, beeing horrible at painting and wondering why people don't want to buy it. It is like going to a court against giant corpo and refusing a lawyer saying "I've seen Suits TV series, I will be fine on my own".

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Not all builds are tanks though to survive the Betrayal ambushes.

Yes, but playing this kind of build is your choice. Adapt. Change uniques, aruas, or maybe take few passives to leech/def/dmg reduction/regen - there are many layers of protection for any class. You want to play glass cannon? Cool, so make sure you can one shoot syndicate members before they get to you.


I've seen a build that did uber elder on afk - this game is easier every league. I know you want this game easier, but it already is easy, I'm not a top player, but I did uber elder just after 2 weeks of the league start.
I recommend picking well tested build, or, if you really need to make your own, ask experienced build makers for help (I'm NOT that person).

I'm really sorry for my english, it isn't my native language, I'm working on it, but I am making a lot of grammar mistakes. Thanks!

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ciel289 a écrit :

there is no magic involed in creating working builds,just a basic knowledge of the game.

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But how can I level up eg bower characters who can clear maps by keeping mobs at a distance - when I am ambushed by melee tank Betrayal bosses?

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Use some common sense - Archers IRL do massive damage AT A DISTANCE - they usually only wear leather and are not heavily muscled. If an armoured knight ambushed an archer at melee range - an archer would be dead. This is what happens with the ambush part of Betrayal.

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But many of us are competent to build workable characters that can take on some aspect of the game we want.

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Yes tanks can deal with the Betrayal ambush - But bowers and other characters who need levels (without losing exp from Betrayal deaths) for dps and life - cant.

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Its not our lack of skill building characters - its GGG introducing content of bosses who ambush characters that we have no choice about.

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Basically all GGG has to do is keep the other 3 Betrayal encounters and remove the ambushing mob - so the game is again about CHOICE and build diversity.

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ciel289 a écrit :

there is no magic involed in creating working builds,just a basic knowledge of the game.

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Nomancs a écrit :

So you want GGG to make the game even easier than it is now? The game is already too easy. It should have been hard.


I don't know how to explain it but the game IS easy. Archers are really easy to play with, and leveling since betrayal is hilarious. Just fix your build, or buy better items for few chaos orbs - it is that simple.

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Kulze a écrit :

Is that a solution though? Don't play melee, play only bow-characters or casters? That's not really fun at all.

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Kulze a écrit :

being 1-shot through pure bad luck isn't fun either