[3.6] ScourgeAgony - The Scourge + Herald of Agony Jugg -::- Fun, Cheap, 3M+ DPS, 5L Uber Elder Down

This looks like a fun and different build for sure, do you think it will still be cheap this upcoming season as a league starter?
Dernière édition par TinyJuggs, le 7 mars 2019 09:55:35
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TinyJuggs a écrit :
This looks like a fun and different build for sure, do you think it will still be cheap this upcoming season as a league starter?


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A large portion of the items used can be, arguably, called "vendor trash", so it would be surprising if they aren't cheap.

Nevertheless, there is still the possibility that the build will blow up and popularity drives prices up; it's very rare for that to happen though, but I have seen it first hand with one of my previous builds.

Even if the build blows up though, it will most likely take a good bit of time for word of mouth to spread, so if you are playing it as league starter, you should be fine.

The biggest risk of that happening to is the abyss jewels, but now days with fossils, there's no reason you can't craft your own, so keep that in mind.

GL
Dernière édition par corosou, le 7 mars 2019 15:27:43
Quick 3.6 Leveling Update

First, a short rant: I don't like hand-holding people through every step of the process. Struggling, feeling lost and doing research are all part of the game and will make you a better player for it.

My guides are about presenting you with everything you need to make a build work, showing you through video evidence that it does indeed work, and letting you figure out how to best take advantage of the information presented.

Nevertheless, I am aware that leveling this can be tricky. Specially if you are planning on doing what I am planning, which is to try to use HoA itself to level.

To that end, I've done a bit of research and here's a bit of what I'm gonna try to do up until lvl 41:





https://pastebin.com/mg796EKL

If I can get a decent stack of poison/virulence in early game with Viper Strike, then it shouldn't be a problem.

The gear is just whatever gave me some key bonus, like Dexterity and fit within the lvl reqs. It's just an example, but def not impossible to acquire.

Will it work? I dunno. But as I said, that's all part of the game.

Testing will tell!

GL
Quick 3.6 useful info/links

Gem Class Purchasing Restrictions upto Act 3:
1 Viper Strike: Shadow, Ranger, Duelist, Scion
8 Minion Damage: Witch, Templar, Scion
10 Flame Dash: Witch, Shadow, Templar, Scion
10 Whirling Blades: Shadow, Ranger, Duelist
12 Spirit Offering: Witch, Templar, Scion
16 Desecrate: Witch, Shadow, Ranger, Templar, Scion
16 Herald of Agony: Shadow, Ranger, Duelist, Scion
18 Minion Speed: Witch, Templar, Scion
18 Point Blank: Shadow, Ranger, Duelist, Scion

+1 to Minion Gems Lvl Helmet Crafting:
Magic Helm + Orb of Alt. + Life Flask suffix of “Animation”

Movement Speed Boot Crafting:
Boots + Quicksilver Flask + Augmentation Orb = Magic boots +10% movement
Repeat on +10% boots for an additional +5% up to 30%

10% = no requirement https://puu.sh/CV4vJ/087957f77f.png
15% = lvl 12 required https://puu.sh/CV4vT/680e9bd406.png
20% = lvl 24 required https://puu.sh/CV4w6/732aa10251.png
25% = lvl 32 required https://puu.sh/CV4we/bb5b0ecc4f.png
30% = lvl 44 required https://puu.sh/CV4wp/4587a0a234.png

Bone Helmet Crafting Fossils:
Pristine, Frigid, Aberrant, Bound (If using Elder base for +Minion dmg ilvl 68+, 75+ or 83+)

Elder Boots +Fortify Crafting Fossils: Pristine, Jagged, Serrated, Shuddering

Gem Crafting Fossils: Pristine, Jagged, Serrated, Shuddering, Prismatic/Corroded

How to 5 Off-Color A Body Armour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79wOQQxXsu0

Dex/Res/Life Ring Search: http://poe.trade/search/oyatitetanobak

Minion Jewel Search: http://poe.trade/search/omamobazohakit
Dernière édition par corosou, le 22 mars 2019 18:44:48
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corosou a écrit :
Quick 3.6 useful info/links

Gem Class Purchasing Restrictions upto Act 3:
1 Viper Strike: Shadow, Ranger, Duelist, Scion
8 Minion Damage: Witch, Templar, Scion
10 Flame Dash: Witch, Shadow, Templar, Scion
10 Whirling Blades: Shadow, Ranger, Duelist
12 Spirit Offering: Witch, Templar, Scion
16 Desecrate: Witch, Shadow, Ranger, Templar, Scion
16 Herald of Agony: Shadow, Ranger, Duelist, Scion
18 Minion Speed: Witch, Templar, Scion
18 Point Blank: Shadow, Ranger, Duelist, Scion

+1 to Minion Gems Lvl Helmet Crafting:
Magic Helm + Orb of Alt. + Life Flask suffix of “Animation”

Movement Speed Boot Crafting:
Boots + Quicksilver Flask + Augmentation Orb = Magic boots +10% movement
Repeat on +10% boots for an additional +5% up to 30%

10% = no requirement https://puu.sh/CV4vJ/087957f77f.png
15% = lvl 12 required https://puu.sh/CV4vT/680e9bd406.png
20% = lvl 24 required https://puu.sh/CV4w6/732aa10251.png
25% = lvl 32 required https://puu.sh/CV4we/bb5b0ecc4f.png
30% = lvl 44 required https://puu.sh/CV4wp/4587a0a234.png

Bone Helmet Crafting Fossils:
Pristine, Frigid, Aberrant, Bound (If using Elder base for +Minion dmg ilvl 68+, 75+ or 83+)

Elder Boots +Fortify Crafting Fossils: Pristine, Jagged, Serrated, Shuddering

Gem Crafting Fossils: Pristine, Jagged, Serrated, Shuddering, Prismatic/Corroded

How to 5 Off-Color A Body Armour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79wOQQxXsu0

Dex/Res/Life Ring Search: http://poe.trade/search/omamobazohakit

Minion Jewel Search: http://poe.trade/search/oyatitetanobak


Nice, I was wondering on the leveling. I always like to play the build asap rather than respeccing or using other skills. I'm gonna split my starter time between this and my Incinerate Elementalist.

I'm still a newbie in terms of crafting as Betrayal was my first league, so I'll be coming back with questions further in the league.

Any idea how this matches up damage wise with the Occultist version?

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2316316
Dernière édition par TinyJuggs, le 8 mars 2019 14:18:20
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TinyJuggs a écrit :

Nice, I was wondering on the leveling. I always like to play the build asap rather than respeccing or using other skills. I'm gonna split my starter time between this and my Incinerate Elementalist.

I'm still a newbie in terms of crafting as Betrayal was my first league, so I'll be coming back with questions further in the league.

Any idea how this matches up damage wise with the Occultist version?

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2316316


Cool Cool!

You're always welcome to ask anything you want, but beware I may just point you in the direction of where you can answer your own question.

It's a nice Occultist build, but you can judge for yourself the DPS.

This is how long it takes them to kill Mino:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8VShq_t9ZQ

And this is how long it takes me and I can face tank it:



Looking at their PoB I couldn't figure out how they are granting Frenzy Charges to Minion, even though they have it enabled. It may be I just missed where it is getting it from, but that's a huge boost to DPS, as Frenzy applies at a bonus to minions.

His gear requirements are much stricter than mine. That bow is pretty ridiculous. Either way, you should be good if you choose to go with that version.

GL
Dernière édition par corosou, le 8 mars 2019 14:52:08
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corosou a écrit :
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TinyJuggs a écrit :

Nice, I was wondering on the leveling. I always like to play the build asap rather than respeccing or using other skills. I'm gonna split my starter time between this and my Incinerate Elementalist.

I'm still a newbie in terms of crafting as Betrayal was my first league, so I'll be coming back with questions further in the league.

Any idea how this matches up damage wise with the Occultist version?

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2316316


Cool Cool!

You're always welcome to ask anything you want, but beware I may just point you in the direction of where you can answer your own question.

It's a nice Occultist build, but you can judge for yourself the DPS.

This is how long it takes them to kill Mino:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8VShq_t9ZQ

And this is how long it takes me and I can face tank it:



Looking at their PoB I couldn't figure out how they are granting Frenzy Charges to Minion, even though they have it enabled. It may be I just missed where it is getting it from, but that's a huge boost to DPS, as Frenzy applies at a bonus to minions.

His gear requirements are much stricter than mine. That bow is pretty ridiculous. Either way, you should be good if you choose to go with that version.

GL


I'm more set on your build as it's a lot more tanky and could probably Delve with it? I just started mapping and doing bosses last league but didn't have a chance to run all of the high end stuff.

I was just curious as to how it compared in terms of dps as I was looking at that build last league. Once I saw yours I was converted.

I don't mind learning as I spend more time reading than actual playing. So pointing in the right direction may be just what I need as I have a long way to go in terms of learning the mechanics behind many builds.

So you're gonna level this with Viper Strike and Herald of Agony?

I guess the desecrate is for Vaal Detonate Dead?
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TinyJuggs a écrit :

I'm more set on your build as it's a lot more tanky and could probably Delve with it? I just started mapping and doing bosses last league but didn't have a chance to run all of the high end stuff.

I was just curious as to how it compared in terms of dps as I was looking at that build last league. Once I saw yours I was converted.

I don't mind learning as I spend more time reading than actual playing. So pointing in the right direction may be just what I need as I have a long way to go in terms of learning the mechanics behind many builds.

So you're gonna level this with Viper Strike and Herald of Agony?

I guess the desecrate is for Vaal Detonate Dead?


My plans changed a bit because Cavas was kind:



So, already doing HoA and it works just fine!

Desecrate is for Spirit Offering

Also, about Delve, you should be able to go pretty deep, if you follow the HC recommendations I have in main post.
Dernière édition par corosou, le 8 mars 2019 21:01:20
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corosou a écrit :
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TinyJuggs a écrit :

I'm more set on your build as it's a lot more tanky and could probably Delve with it? I just started mapping and doing bosses last league but didn't have a chance to run all of the high end stuff.

I was just curious as to how it compared in terms of dps as I was looking at that build last league. Once I saw yours I was converted.

I don't mind learning as I spend more time reading than actual playing. So pointing in the right direction may be just what I need as I have a long way to go in terms of learning the mechanics behind many builds.

So you're gonna level this with Viper Strike and Herald of Agony?

I guess the desecrate is for Vaal Detonate Dead?


My plans changed a bit because Cavas was kind:



So, already doing HoA and it works just fine!

Desecrate is for Spirit Offering

Also, about Delve, you should be able to go pretty deep, if you follow the HC recommendations I have in main post.


I just started the league yesterday and got my hands on a 4L so my HoA has some decent gems for now, but I'm really having trouble maintaining Virulence, around level 25 the I'm usually running with 2-3 virulence, max 10 and most of the time I'm spamming away with MS to get more. Would it be viable to level up with a bow or it wouldn't make a difference?
Thanks OP for nice guide & build!
I respeced from Tec slam/Double strike into this as my league starter. I must say i dont even have main setup and its already very reliable build, i love it :D Will u update this build version with new HoA ring? Also wouldnt elder rings be better if they had all those desired mods + life gain on hit?
Cheers
Dernière édition par BaxaroNN, le 11 mars 2019 16:27:59

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