RIP Bisco's?

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awright a écrit :

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I_NO a écrit :

Do you even know how shit works? =/ It's not the best anymore not even by a long shot dude lol

Legacy IIQ on an amulet goes upto 20% iirc

The bino's gave upto 100% on the current(Abyss) iteration, the nerfed version is going down to 50%

Thats not an outright half as effective nerf, thats only maybe a 33% overall effectiveness nerf when taking diminishing returns into account

if going for an outright IIQ build, tell me why an amulet giving approximately 35% IIQ (After diminishing returns) isnt better than one that gives 16% ?

Do you even know how shit works bro ?

Legacy? LOL cmon dude we're talking about leagues. It's an overall net LOSS by a large margin using basic math and a spread sheet.

Using data from my groups findings ( over 5k+ vaults worth of data ) and others data

It's a very very large loss you're better off using another pure IIQ piece rather than biscos effectively killing biscos as a core chase. It's not the best amulet by far =/

Blue
Rare

mobs are a key equation here but you never count those do you cause you have a biscos huh? It's a NET LOSS by FAR if you factor in using IIQ on those two type of mobs vs whites only biscos.

Complete net loss.

But hey hey if you TRULY think biscos is still good by all means keep using it I ain't stopping you.

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I_NO a écrit :

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awright a écrit :

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I_NO a écrit :

Do you even know how shit works? =/ It's not the best anymore not even by a long shot dude lol

Legacy IIQ on an amulet goes upto 20% iirc

The bino's gave upto 100% on the current(Abyss) iteration, the nerfed version is going down to 50%

Thats not an outright half as effective nerf, thats only maybe a 33% overall effectiveness nerf when taking diminishing returns into account

if going for an outright IIQ build, tell me why an amulet giving approximately 35% IIQ (After diminishing returns) isnt better than one that gives 16% ?

Do you even know how shit works bro ?

Legacy? LOL cmon dude we're talking about leagues. It's an overall net LOSS by a large margin using basic math and a spread sheet.

Using data from my groups findings ( over 5k+ vaults worth of data ) and others data

It's a very very large loss you're better off using another pure IIQ piece rather than biscos.

A shaped amulet ? With a 10% IIQ gain at best ?


So where are all these spreadsheets. oh thats right, it hasnt happened yet.

Personally i think this whole reactions a moot point, the IIQ is off whites only, its noticeable effect is the rarity on magics, thats all the magic, bloodlines and breach mobs with +30% pack size in your sextanted shaped/elder vaults thats dropping a vast majority of your loot, so the quantity will hardly be noticed if at all unless thats been reduced on the new version too, essentially with a biscos youll still get comparable if not the same average loot from those packs as you will from the 100% version.

Believe what you want dude but when you have a group of around 23 people doing vaults every day every hour using a pure IIQ set with biscos.

Tell me.

I run a fucking empire for data dude whether it be basic mapping or basic trade manipulation if you truly think biscos is that fucking amazing still even though it only affects whites by all means keep using it.

But I highly doubt you have the experience vs me and that's a single person.

Spread sheet is run by a single guy whos playing monster hunter post it eventually assuming if he even wants too or don't cause it makes you anxious as fuck which is better imo.

'' Hardly noticeable ''

hahahahahah ah fuck dude it's nice being second in fucking command here. Shit even Sun knows this is a net loss by far and all he does is look it the exalted prices.

Lol

Im just truly surprised at how many people seem to have the time to collate all this data, and still have the time to actually play the fucking game and post on the forums 20 hours a day , yet none of this data is ever supplied to prove a point, cause its all part of some supa sekrit group.

I control the assets of my group how the fuck do you think we gain x 55+ Do you think they just magically come out doing some shady shit? No we don't do that

Spread sheet on the following

Maps aka shaped vault
Exploited shit like energy shield jewels when people were buying ES jewels for 100-200 ex per pop cause they're stupid
What's popular?
What's the best items to sell
etc

All of that is in a spread sheet.

Data is everything so what I'm basically saying is there's enough data in here to say it's a net loss on biscos.

But once more if you think it's still a good amulet by all means keep equipping it but I'm telling you it's not you're better off with a RAW IIQ piece because once more key equation here

IT ONLY AFFECTS WHITE MOBS.

Don't forget you ALSO LOSE BREACH zana 8 that's even MORE of a net loss basic understanding basic math basic every fucking thing dude. The loss of breach + Biscos nerf holy fucking shit that's super loss right there effectively killing it.

And I post what like 15-16 post per fucking day and I still get rich every league cmon dude.

@ I_No

What do you do for a living? Is it data related? (this is not a hatchet job, just genuinely curious). Also is that 275000 chaos for your group after a league or the chaos you've accumulated into standard? Either way.... that's a lot of chaos ffs.

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Blakwhysper a écrit :

@ I_No

What do you do for a living? Is it data related? (this is not a hatchet job, just genuinely curious). Also is that 275000 chaos for your group after a league or the chaos you've accumulated into standard? Either way.... that's a lot of chaos ffs.

In leagues I had a person convert so it was 5000 x 55 yeah we still had a lot of ex remaining crew member just didn't wanna bother anymore cause league was ending.

And we don't do anything with our money cause we're dumb not to mention it's standard.

Standard is likely 10 times more but our money isn't even shit compared to the ones running the mirror market in standard ours is a fucking joke compared to there's or even my infamous guild leader whos not part of my group but 100% sure he has more than us combined just cause.

A lot of money was from the jewel exploit ( When ES watcher's eye gave more ES than usual ) the one where dumbasses bought it for 100-200 ex those sold INSTANTLY.

Oh jesus i give up

I know its whites only, I have pointed that out myself too, and ofcourse it will be an overall loss, its effectiveness has been reduced by about a third on the quantity of loot youll be getting off whites. It wont be effecting the loot youll also be getting from blues.

Have you been spending the time logging the loot from each individual pack you kill and noting if it was a normal or a magic pack ?

Or just an overall loot total from each map ?

It wont be affecting the loot you get from the blue packs, and i bet once you run and log the loot from another 5000 vaults that losing a third of the loot from only white mobs isnt as disastrous as you all seem to be crying about...

Dude it's VERY large =/ I can't convince you I get that but I can at least tell you it's a very big loss.

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I_NO a écrit :

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Blakwhysper a écrit :

@ I_No

What do you do for a living? Is it data related? (this is not a hatchet job, just genuinely curious). Also is that 275000 chaos for your group after a league or the chaos you've accumulated into standard? Either way.... that's a lot of chaos ffs.

In leagues I had a person convert so it was 5000 x 55 yeah we still had a lot of ex remaining crew member just didn't wanna bother anymore cause league was ending.

And we don't do anything with our money cause we're dumb not to mention it's standard.

Standard is likely 10 times more but our money isn't even shit compared to the ones running the mirror market in standard ours is a fucking joke compared to there's

There is always someone that goes one step further lol. I would browse mirror services when bored and people would have 1 or 3 or 5 mirrorable pieces. Then I bump into Rayamann (or something like that) and the dude literally has what seemed like over 100 of all types of best in slot for tons of builds... <mind blown> The amount of time and effort it must take to create the obvious skill gap between hard core and more casual gamers in PoE dwarfs that of WoW when I did my hardcore stint in that game.

On another note, I finally convinced 3 of my friends who play on xbox to pony up and play on pc, so I might not be playing league solo for the first time ever :D