OniGoroshi now harder to find

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TheBagman a écrit :

Why should Oni be the one and only unique that you can farm?

You can 'farm' for any unique that has a dedicated divination card. (even for Oni, but with the exception that its card has no dedicated drop spot).

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almostdead a écrit :

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(Charan)Firstly, the sword in 3.1 was/is WAY easier to get than I planned or suggested.
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The OG fad was amusing for a while, but it was never really the intention. Whether or not the 3.2 changes are closer to that intention I don't know, but the overall sense that OG should be rarer is in-line with what I envisioned.

The fatal thing is, that the way to get her in fact demands to use a rotation of multiple chars, which lead to more the one OG per account. (why 'throw away' and waste that 2/3 or even 3/4 of farming time?!)
A 'real' good solution to the accessibility should eliminate this rotation neccessity (but I admit I have no idea about this solution yet)

That is a good point. The necessity of running multiple characters to farm Oni makes people want to keep farming after the first one. After so many hours invested, why stop when you could be one run away? People feel like they have to farm more than one in order to make the commitment feel worthwhile.

My opinion is both changes to spawn rate and more variance to rolls of the weapon itself is too much. I also agree with the need for multipule characters to farm the item in the first place. What they should have done again IMO is to either make the spawn rate much less or leave spawn chance alone and make it have a wider range of rolls bit the biggest problem is the 60 or 90 second zone reset. Whatever they do I think they need to make Twilight Strand reset immediately on log out. Doing so would drastically cut down on the number of Oni’s for sale since it would less efficient to use more than one character for farming.

Depends.
Can you find it (through astronomical luck) at lvl 1?
then im for it, at least an handful will randomly win the lottery.
Now if you can find it only after X lvl of grindan then fuck it, not worth the time, too much grindan autism

I honestly would've preferred it if ggg had changed it more towards more consistency at higher level. Move up the drop increase threshold to 8 would've been enough to scare most people away from farming it.

Also, for those who're hoping for some sort of response from charan, he said in off-topic (I think) that he'll take a break from forums and poe until after bestiary and probably not even answer to pms.
I'm pretty sure though that he wouldn't have wanted the increased variance in drop chance. I know he said that Oni-Goroshi was too easy to aquire, but he wanted a surefire way for people to get the sword if they commit enough time to the cause.

And for those that want Oni-Goroshi to be a world drop: No. Charan made it VERY clear ever since his first unique came out (Tipua Kaikuhuru at the time, nowadays known as The Goddess Bound) that he doesn't want his items to be in the general drop pool, or if that isn't possible, at a very high rarity. They're meant to be found only by those who look for them. Which was also the reason for the Scorned and Unleashed recipes.
I think the story behind this decision was that too many people complained about finding Bound in high level zones "instead of" high level uniques.
Oni-Goroshi becoming a general world drop is about the last thing that'd happen to it.

I'm still planning to farm a couple of these. But I'm OCD so it's easier for me.

Charan already responded to this on redit.

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essemoni a écrit :

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cuocdoitan a écrit :

My opinion is keep the drop chance but increase the lv requirement to drop, example up to lv 15 instead of lv 7

Given the reduction of EXP when your over leveled, is it even possible to farm to lvl 15 in Twilight Strand?

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Matt.

I farmed two last league
I made 2 packs of 4 chars and was lucky to get the sword with a few % on the lvl 7 xp bar
here are some statistics i collected.
You encounter 3 kinds of monsters. zombies crabs and Hillock
Level 1 - 4 are xp penalty free.
Giving crabs 20 xp, zombies 18 xp and Hillock 137 xp
At lvl 5 crabs 17, zombies 15, Hillock 118
At lvl 6 crabs 10, zombies 9, Hillock 73
At lvl 7 crabs and zombies 5 and Hillock 39
You need 13804 xp to reach lvl 8
And another 18512 to reach lvl 9 and penalty still rising
So i doubt you will ever come past lvl 9
Check the xp table on the wiki to see it yourself.

That "sucks donkey" big time. 3+ hours of fucking boring as hell zombie beach runs to get to level 7 just to have a shot at uber Hillock and with bad rng going into level 8 (my first one was level 7 25% and my last was level 8 12%). I'm a poor sob "filthy casual" and don't have access to tons of 6L weapons and to be able to farm a 6L sword in a reasonable (about 5 to 6 hours running a 3 farmer rotation) is crazy good. I will not be polite in expressing my disgust against GGG for fucking it up and making it take longer to get one. Screw the DC card farming or buying. At the start of the challenge league I have no currency to buy one and don't want to take a whole day to farm one.

SHAME ON YOU GGG!!! You really are perfecting the art of "biting the hand that feeds you". I will be needing more stash space in about 3 weeks on the next super stash tab sale weekend but if I don't have a Charon's Sword by then any more mtx is off the table for me. I'll make due with what I have. Make sure the GGG devs and bean counters know this forum moderators please.