[3.17] For Slayer / Champion - Ngamahu Cyclone / Consecrated Path / Tectonic Slam

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Mollycat a écrit :

I only started playing late into the Harbinger league, so I really only got to maps and no end bosses before it ended. I ran a couple characters through the end of the story part, and I had a botched Cyclone build. So I made a character with this guide, but I didn't have time to get to end game before the league ended.

This was my 2nd character for this league. I was playing a witch until I found some good starter gear for the slayer.

This build is very fun, and you can easily get into maps without all the uniques and recommended gear(aside from Ngamahu,) just using what you find and then upgrading pieces as you need. So that means a big thanks to Kira, because the well laid out guide and explanation of what to prioritize on gear makes that possible for newbies such as myself. This guide doesn't just give you a template for this one character, it really helped me understand how a lot of the game's mechanics work. So it'll help in developing other characters/builds.

So again thanks for the great guide, and this applies to the other people who have added information throughout this thread!

Now that the hug-fest is out of the way, I am mapping now,and the way my toon is now I haven't really run into much it can't handle, though I haven't gone past tier 13 maps yet. I pounded white and yellow level elder, no challenge, even with not knowing the fight mechanics. Uber lab is pretty much trivial with this build. The hardest part is getting enough offerings to run it several times.
Normal Atziri is a cake walk. I took one run at Uber-Atziri but before I had Bronn and Xoph's, and my damage wasn't good enough to make it through yet, I haven't spawned a red Elder yet, nor Shaper. I'm not even sure how to get to Shaper, I guess you need to get to the center of the Atlas to get to his guardians and eventually to shaper himself?

I know I need to upgrade some slots, especially rings. My flasks aren't optimum, I'm just using stuff I found so I have to save more currency to buy upgrades. Also I have been slowly trying to corrupt my own elemental weakness Tombfists, but no such luck so far so I am using the best roll I have gotten so far. I don't get to play a lot, so I really don't have currency to buy them, or stuff like Watcher's Eye. But I think I still have some work to do if I am going to tackle some real end game.

So again thanks for the guide, and any advice on what I should focus on next would be appreciated.

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Nin_tu1977 a écrit :

Hi, I'm enjoying the build and it's a quite smooth mapper. But I'm struggling with bosses like those based on Rigwald which are a pain... but that's no biggy.
I was trying minotaur for the first time (ever) killed a lich in the way without problem and then I faced the beast and was crushed like an ant T_T . I still miss some pieces of your build but damn!... that hurt.
Cheers.

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- You can hide behind the pillar till he finish casting his barrage skill.
- Once he stop, there is a window for you to do damage on him.
- When he turn into wolf form, just run till he transform back to humanoid.
- Repeat above till he is dead.

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- Don't stay in the falling rocks (especially when there are more than 1 stack)
- Cyclone in circle around him and his melee attacks will miss
- When you are too far away from him, he will perform tunnel attack, move away from the path and you should be able to avoid it
- Repeat above till he is dead

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Akuq a écrit :

I just beat Shaper at lvl 87 with these items

Spoiler

I died 3 times but that's only because it's my first time doing Shaper so I didn't know his moves.

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xmonkeyking a écrit :

2. Do you have any tips for clearing Vaal Temple? I tried it earlier, but when only 1 boss left, he hit really hurt (the melee one not the one that spinning)

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Magnifque a écrit :

@kira1414 You should put a note that you can defeat shaper with a 5 link chest. I killed shaper 4 times this league with a 5 link cyclone because my Bronn's won't 6 link after about 3k fusings :(

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Obsoleete a écrit :

I have an account created through steam. Did not see the option to log in through steam when first logging into the website. I actually went straight to create a new account, since I didn't even think of the possibility of logging through steam for the forums. Anyways, I'm posting through my actual account now. Here goes.

Hello, I'm a new player and going by google, your build is very good. Therefore I decided to go ahead and follow it, seeing as I had no idea what to do when I first started the game. I'm level 45 now and am so far, loving the build and the game. However, I have a few questions that I hope you can answer for me. I scanned through your guide multiple times, but some information at least to me, seems outdated or I can't find it. So anyways, these are the questions I have:

1) At level 55, you get Ngamahu's Flame. That's the first item I assume I should be getting. So what's next? What gear progression should I follow as I level? I know you sort of answered this question in the FAQ, however, that progression states that you get the Dying Sun, but in your guide, you state that the Dying Sun is obsolete in this patch. So yeah, what's the modified gear progression as opposed to the one posted?

2) Next question. This is probably because I'm new, but I'm getting confused with the multiple end game passive skill trees that you have posted. I'm currently following the leveling skill tree as I'm still under 50. However, once I go past 50, which skill tree should I aim for? I'm assuming that this would depend on gear progression, I think? As in, I probably will not be getting Xoph's Blood right of the bat, and so I would be aiming for the Avatar of Fire skill tree? I dunno.

3) You stated under required gears that one should aim for a certain gem setup on Ngamahu's flame if they're following a certain build and another gem setup if they're following the other build. This is where I get confused even more because, I only know of 3 builds that one should follow based on your leveling skill tree tab. That is, Xoph's Blood - More life or More Damage Primeval force or Without Xoph's Blood - Avatar of Fire in Skill tree. So, this is linked to the second question, but which skill tree should I follow?

4) Also, should I follow the gem set up for Ngamahu's Flame under the recommended gem set up tab, which would be 2B2G2R or is there some other gem setup depending on the build as stated above?

5) Uh, under recommended gears, you state that if one has Xoph's Blood, they should run a certain setup. So does this setup trump the suggestions under the recommended rares tab? Honestly, this question ties in with the first question. What gear should I aim for and under what conditions? What would the best gear be?

6) People say Stygian Vise (the Abyssal belt), is the best belt option. Is that true and if so, what sort of attributes should we aim for on that belt?

For now, those are all my questions. Sorry if any of these have been answered in some format within the guide but as a new player, I get confused easily as the whole concept of the game is still new for me. Also sorry for very big post and the many questions, trying to get my head around everything. I'd really appreciate it if you can answer my questions. Thank you!

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xmonkeyking a écrit :

Just want to say thank you for the guid, just killed Shaper today with this build.
I have few questions i want to ask tho :
1. Should i go full abyss jewel in my jewel slot (abyss + watcher's eye) or use other jewel. I kinda want to improve my hp right now, because i think my dps pretty good for now
2. Do you have any tips for clearing Vaal Temple? I tried it earlier, but when only 1 boss left, he hit really hurt (the melee one not the one that spinning)

Thank you

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GeneralDurph a écrit :

just hit level 80, using 6l belly and tombfists, instead of bronns and rare gloves. all the other gear is comparable to what is listed under the suggested gearing section. rings have desirable rolls, one steel and one opal, and ammy is devotos.

what should my life/armor/cyclone damage be averaging at this benchmark?

im currently at 4.6k life, 3200 armor and 55k cyclone damage in hideout with just herald of ash active.

no struggles atm whatsoever, shit just melts effortlessly, just would like some idea as to where my stats should be.