GGG's Balance Team is a Laughing Stock

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AkuTenshiiZero a écrit :

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FireEvil a écrit :

the game is fast and easy now, exp nerf is expected

Yeah, for the 1% of no-lifers that rush to 100 in less than a week. For the rest of us normal people? This game is a soulless grind with no actual goal, and we can't even reach that. I don't want to run gorge until the heat death of the universe, I got other shit to do with my time.

Playing PoE should not require I put in more effort in more hours than my actual fucking job.

On what planet does it?

IF you want to achieve what the "hard working people do", you have to put in the hours - just as in real life. PoE does NOT - on ANY level - force you to do anything. Your OWN goals and expectations, on the other hand.

GGG has a pretty spoiled, amateur attitude it feels like.

"I don't want to (or can't) work on that, that, or that even though we really should, it's just not fun to work on those. Instead, lets make kewel traps and make the explosions even bigger. Yay!"

Balance team cant work becasue balancing game would thow a lot players off the game

example: cast on crit changes

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Phrazz a écrit :

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AkuTenshiiZero a écrit :

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FireEvil a écrit :

the game is fast and easy now, exp nerf is expected

Yeah, for the 1% of no-lifers that rush to 100 in less than a week. For the rest of us normal people? This game is a soulless grind with no actual goal, and we can't even reach that. I don't want to run gorge until the heat death of the universe, I got other shit to do with my time.

Playing PoE should not require I put in more effort in more hours than my actual fucking job.

On what planet does it?

IF you want to achieve what the "hard working people do", you have to put in the hours - just as in real life. PoE does NOT - on ANY level - force you to do anything. Your OWN goals and expectations, on the other hand.

The white knighting here is god damn palpable.

You seem to have missed the fundamental fact that a game is not a job. I'm perfectly happy to put in some effort into a game, hell if I wasn't then I'd just be watching TV, no point to an interactive medium if you're not interacting, right? But PoE just demands way too much.

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Phrazz a écrit :

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AkuTenshiiZero a écrit :

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FireEvil a écrit :

the game is fast and easy now, exp nerf is expected

Yeah, for the 1% of no-lifers that rush to 100 in less than a week. For the rest of us normal people? This game is a soulless grind with no actual goal, and we can't even reach that. I don't want to run gorge until the heat death of the universe, I got other shit to do with my time.

Playing PoE should not require I put in more effort in more hours than my actual fucking job.

On what planet does it?

IF you want to achieve what the "hard working people do", you have to put in the hours - just as in real life. PoE does NOT - on ANY level - force you to do anything. Your OWN goals and expectations, on the other hand.

Well, technically, I could just BUY achievement. I can buy boss kills, gg items, challenges, without putting in nearly as many hours as someone else doing it themselves.

Thank you economy and player interaction!

Honestly, ggg has one of the worst balancing teams I've seen so far. They destroy nearly everything they touch and then come back a year later to make it so insanely overpowered, it'll go back to being useless pretty soon with new nerfs.

So yeah, now they're going to punish people for playing cast on crit, same as they took all the fun out of shield charge. A build that was slightly OP because of it's aoe for most and very OP for the richest people in the game.

Honestly, it's increasingly more depressing to play this game, knowing your stuff is going to be useless 5 months from now.

- I wanted to play vaal molten shell, but no, they killed that too.
- I wanted to play shield charge, but no, tier 2 skill now.
- I wanted to play perandus league to get some tier 1 uniques, but no, droprates nerfed within a month after release.


In fact, their thought process baffles me. People LIKE speedclearing content, since it takes a good amount of knowledge and OP gear to do. It's something to work towards which will guarantee fun. But every time the casual players might get to enjoy one of these OP builds, it's nerfed.

It's why I stopped playing new leagues except to get the 1 or 2 uniques I want(which will get nerfed any way).

And worst of all, the people who balance the game probably don't even care about us. They just watch some no-life streamer go through content like butter and they nerf it in such a way that everybody else suffers. Horrible, horrible decision making, it shows that they're really scraping the bottom of the barrel to find even slightly competent people in kiwi-land.


All the while, we still have massive gameplay issues and Chris stubbornly not allowing us to turn off ground effects and MTX because of "atmosphere". Here's a little hint, Chris: nobody cares about atmosphere if the game runs like ****.
And you being so darn stubborn every darn time makes your players depressed.

This is my just venting against a wall here, because no positive changes will come from this as usual. They will destroy coc and it'll take another 3 years before the gameplay will be slightly manageable again.

No gg, no ggg, no re.

Balance team is content now. Even Havoc said the game is boring and forces himself to play.
They did their job, game is fucked :D

When CoC changes it's going to be a riot I tell you lol

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AkuTenshiiZero a écrit :

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But PoE just demands way too much.

Then it's maybe not the right game for you, dunno.

As Phrazz says, as e.g. Shags often says, PoE is wonderful in setting your own goals.
And the "ultimate" goal (lv100 in TempLeague duration) should be somewhat hard to get.

It's not the GGG team balancing the game that is the problem. The problem is that players want vastly different things from the game. Some talk about the game being too easy with clear speed, others complain about skill nerfs that partially dealt with clear speed. Some of the same people that want the game to be "harder" turn around and complain about xp nerfs.

Some say it should require a nolife commitment, but then many of these same players talk about getting bored at late game and can't stick to their commitment after all. Some think the game should be fun and rewarding, others think a punishing grind is more appropriate.

GGG could just pick a direction for balance and say "This is it, like it or leave it, but shut the hell up if you keep playing, or else get banned." Then they could easily balance the game.

I suspect that the player base of supporters is heavily divided, and that picking a single direction would force them to downsize or slow production substantially.

The game does have a lot of changes, and while I don't enjoy all of them, I'd say the overall direction has been good.